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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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so im looking to lower my car...and i like the affordibility of the TEIN S-techs and the fact that its a really mild drop. i did notice though that the springs rates are reversed. OEM spring rates are higher in the front than the rear...whereas TEIN is higher in the rear and lower in the front.

any pros or cons to that? i do drive my car rather aggressively and i think the OEM suspension does a great job..just ugly wheel gap

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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As far as I know, the spring rates changed a lot thru MY.
Early AP1s had pretty high rear spring rates, but it was softened a lot for AP2s(esp. AP2 DBWs)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but higher rear spring rates would generally mean more possibility of snap oversteer.

Dan
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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the grip transfers first to which ever end has the softest spring rates.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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swift springs sound like a good option for you alvin. They work with the stock shocks as well.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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i've been wondering this as well. i thought the springs were different lengths though, so your car would be angled... unless they are all the same length

someone chime in plz lol
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Yes, these and many of the other springs were developed for the early model S2K, which have higher rates in the rear. They were subsequently lowered to keep the back end in check.

I know one owner just recently swapped his Eibachs front and rear to get the similar setup as the AP2. I don't know if he posted results though. This was about 1.5 months ago.

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hockey,Mar 17 2008, 02:49 PM
Yes, these and many of the other springs were developed for the early model S2K, which have higher rates in the rear. They were subsequently lowered to keep the back end in check.

I know one owner just recently swapped his Eibachs front and rear to get the similar setup as the AP2. I don't know if he posted results though. This was about 1.5 months ago.

-Hockey
do you know if the springs are all the same size and length? or are the different front to rear?
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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This is one of the main reasons that I did not just swap springs and went with a full coilover setup (non-Tein). There is a lot of issues in the earlier model years (i.e., bumpsteer). If you track the spring rates through the different model years, you will see that Honda has been progressively moving towards a stiffer front and softer rear.

The only spring that I could find that had a firmer front spring rate were the Skunk2 springs. However, I wasn't able to confirm how many inches it lowered the car (wasn't able to get confirmation whether it was 1" or 2").

I still maintain that it is better to mimick the stock Honda setup and have a firmer front spring rates (or at least the same all around). But this is my opionion only and not tested on a track.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Here's the link to the springs thread:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=545870
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