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I think it was Honda Tuning that posted the Dyno Video on facebook but still no numbers. I have no idea when they are going to release it but I think it's going to be a test and tune article in their mag soon.
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The OEM design is a standard Tri-Y with a better configuration. The thing that I believe is bad about designs like this one (and Hytech's) is that they are pairing cylinders 3 and 4 together and 1 and 2 together. By doing this, the pulse from cylinder 3 at the secondary merge collector will cause scavenging on cylinder 3 and 4. However, the pulse from cylinder 4 will only cause scavenging on itself. The same will happen with the pulse from cylinder 2, so cylinder 1 will also get 2 scavenging pulses. So at the engine RPM where scavenging is at its peak, cylinders 1 and 4 are going to run significantly different than 2 and 3. Ignition timing and fuel would really need to be independently tuned for peak performance and reliability, but I don't think any EMS allows separate maps for 2 cylinders. If you just try to use individual cylinder trims to add a few percent more fuel and retard timing a couple degrees on cylinders 1 and 4, that would be safer, but you would be loosing performance at the lower RPMs where 1 and 4 aren't getting double scavenging.
Skunk2: 1-2, 3-4 pairings
Hytech: 1-3, 2-4 pairings (typical for other applications)
Others: 1-4, 2-3 pairings (typical and OEM S2000 application)
Skunk2:
Hytech:
Other (well, Toda but it's the typical (OE) pairing:
#26
I agree that the cylinder pairings are technically different between the Hytech and Skunk2, but the problem is the same. Since the firing order is 1-3-4-2, the only way to have even scavenging across all 4 cylinders is to pair 1 and 4 together and 2 and 3 together. The Skunk2 pairing causes double scavenging on cylinders 1 and 4, and the Hytech pairing causes double scavenging on cylinders 2 and 3. However, the double scavenging only happens above a certain RPM. What I forgot to mention is that below that RPM, double reversion occurs on those 2 cylinders! Basically, the Skunk2 header will cause cylinders 1 and 4 to run very rich at low RPMs and very lean at high RPMs.The Hytech header will do the same on cylinders 2 and 3.
#29
stock header(tuned) + tp/exh vs skunk2 header (tuned) + tp/exh vs hytech header (tuned) + tp/exh
Ap1 and Ap2
Would love to see dynos by independent 3rd party
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Ap1 and Ap2
Would love to see dynos by independent 3rd party
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#30
Hytech and Skunk2 pairings are different, but the concept is identical. Both are designed to be sequentially fired.
1&2, 3&4 pairing = 1&3, 2&4 pairing.
I'm too lazy to type. See section 4 at: http://www.team-integra.net/forum/bl...ine-power.html. Cole's notes: SMSP, Hytech, and Endyn agree that sequential firing is the best design for a tri-y header, where ultimate power is concerned. It always made sense to me, and I've always wondered why no one else besides hytech came out with a sequentially fired header up until now. P.s. wasn't fast forward experimenting with sequentially fired header designs?
Anyhow, this looks interesting. Can't wait to see some proper dyno testing.
1&2, 3&4 pairing = 1&3, 2&4 pairing.
I'm too lazy to type. See section 4 at: http://www.team-integra.net/forum/bl...ine-power.html. Cole's notes: SMSP, Hytech, and Endyn agree that sequential firing is the best design for a tri-y header, where ultimate power is concerned. It always made sense to me, and I've always wondered why no one else besides hytech came out with a sequentially fired header up until now. P.s. wasn't fast forward experimenting with sequentially fired header designs?
Anyhow, this looks interesting. Can't wait to see some proper dyno testing.