One of the benefits of a square set-up that shouldn't be overlooked is the ability to rotate tires freely. I would be hesitant to take that away from street class participants.
Also, while I agree that street class is currently too much like mod, we should still keep some separation between stock and street.

I like the idea of no R-comps or aftermarket aero in street,
No aero at all and no front tires over 225 in stock, and maybe letting supermod cars that are NA be 50lbs less than
FI cars.

 

Haha would be a ton of fun! Nice to feel the love Mike

Hey man! Other than finding track days to practice driving through foam walls at speed, not much. Haha just having fun, had a great year in SCCA Solo winning the Pro-Solo Championship, doing some Lemons racing, Track Days in New England and some carting. The highlight of my year on track was doing a test with TRG in two of their new Aston Martin racecars, one set up for Continental Tire and Pirelli World Challenge (Conventional 6 Speed H Pattern, minimal aero), the other for Rolex series (Sequential Paddle Shifters and More Aero.) I got to enjoy a 170+mph braking zone at the end of 3/4 mile straight at Monticello all afternoon. That was a BLAST.

Hahaha! What if they are GTR styrofoam cutouts Jon? I should be able to fit an s2000 through there NO PROBLEM

 

So whats the consensus?

Winged street class or no? I Gotta know if I should order my wing or not

 

i'd like to participate, but my current STR setup would land me in Super Mod.

 

just curious what wing were you going with?

 

Depending on availability Voltex 1S or if I cant get one for like 6 months, the new style GTC-200

 

Depending on availability Voltex 1S or if I cant get one for like 6 months, the new style GTC-200
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I have a 1S sitting in my garage

 

Depending on availability Voltex 1S or if I cant get one for like 6 months, the new style GTC-200
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I have a 1S sitting in my garage
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I was under the impression there was a line around the block to take that for a ride.

 

Yeah Ryan I thought I had dibs on this lol!

 

I don't have a problem if the decision is made to go wingless in Street class.

However, per one of the rules discussions that I was at, I remember Aaron saying that he liked wings since he felt it made the car "safer" in that they were more predictable. I believe there was even discussion about the GTC-200 being 1.00 or 1.25 points to encourage people to add a wing for track use.

As for the true value of the wing, well, this is my data.

Stock class car at 0.375 points
-OEM hardtop - 0.125
-Test pipe - 0.25
BW CW13 - 2:10.xxx
CVR - 2:13.xxx

Street Class car at 2.5 points
-OEM hard top - 0.125
-HFC - 0.125
-17x9 square - 0.5
-255 square - .75
-GTC-200 - 1.5
-OEM springs and shocks - 0
Lap times:
BW CW13 - 2:06.xxx
CVR - 2:07.xxx

My street class car got a nice cut in lap times compared to my 2.5 points. For a less skilled driver, I would say that the wing is easily worth more than the 1.5 points assigned to it. However, for a more skilled driver maxing out the stock setup, I think the street points are fairly valued.

Data point - Doug Chan

Stock Class times:
BW CW13 - 2:06.xxx
CVR - 2:06.xxx

Street Class times
BW CW 13 - 2:01.xxx
CVR -2:01.xxx or 2:02.xxx???

His lap times and mods more accurately support the valuation of the wings/parts for Street class.


As for this season, i'm surprised no one in the wingless crowd tried out this setup for Street

-1.00 = SA coilovers
-0.75 = 255 fronts
-0.75 = 17x9 with 17x10 Stagger
-1.25 = NT-01
-0.25 = Testpipe

-4.00 = Total

That looks like it would be a would be a fast competitive setup that could compete with the winged crowd.

As for the season, winged setups pretty much dominated street; however, I wonder how my proposed setup might fair in the hands of a capable driver.

Anyway, assuming I find (or make) time, I'm down to show up and possibly cater my car to points/rules - although I'm pretty sure i'm a guaranteed no-show for the season opener next year if it's the usual last weekend of January.