Alignment question
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Apr 7 2006, 11:13 PM
0.25 degrees != 0.25 inches
The chart is based off of a 24" toe gauge. The stock tires are 25" in diameter, so the conversion will be very close.
Looks like the tech did the conversion and correctly did the ~.25" total rear toe as you requested (.46* total as shown). Had he done .25" per side as it seems you were expecting that would have been way too much (.5" total).
For a 24" distance between measurement points,
inches on one side = 0.42 * degrees on one side
total toe in inches = 0.84 * degrees toe on each side
So it looks like you now have about 0.2" total toe-in, which is close enough.
It's pretty clear now what was causing your oversteer problem. You had toe-out in the rear overall, and it wasn't even symmetric.
inches on one side = 0.42 * degrees on one side
total toe in inches = 0.84 * degrees toe on each side
So it looks like you now have about 0.2" total toe-in, which is close enough.
It's pretty clear now what was causing your oversteer problem. You had toe-out in the rear overall, and it wasn't even symmetric.
Ortho, looks like he had 0.73 degrees of total rear toe IN before.
S2K, with only 1.5* rear camber before, that would most likely be the culprit, as confirmed by the fact that the outermost tread blocks took the most beating. However, I'm a bit surprised that it's the power-on oversteer that's prominent because with power-on oversteer you should get more wear on the inside than the outside tread blocks. It could be that the oversteer already starts during throttle lift. You try to weigh down the rear by applying throttle. At this point, the outside rear had no traction left and just keep sliding. In any case, I hope the increase in rear camber helps your backend hang on on throttle lift and you don't apply throttle too much too soon to break loose the rear end.
S2K, with only 1.5* rear camber before, that would most likely be the culprit, as confirmed by the fact that the outermost tread blocks took the most beating. However, I'm a bit surprised that it's the power-on oversteer that's prominent because with power-on oversteer you should get more wear on the inside than the outside tread blocks. It could be that the oversteer already starts during throttle lift. You try to weigh down the rear by applying throttle. At this point, the outside rear had no traction left and just keep sliding. In any case, I hope the increase in rear camber helps your backend hang on on throttle lift and you don't apply throttle too much too soon to break loose the rear end.
OK well, here it is..
I went auto-x today. There was alot of oversteer and so much understeer I could barely drive... I started to SLOW my movements and SLOW my acceleration and I did amazing.. The back RARELY kicked out (while understeer was still a little bad) I think I might have had too little air in the front. But for the most part the camber DEFINANTLY helped. I'll keep you guys updated and when I buy new front tires to match the rears that should take care of the problem
The stats should be online soon. I'll post them when they do. I won 1st in my class by god knows how much. (I did novice class) But my problem this time was I was driving as if I had racing tires and these just couldn't keep up so I slowed down my corner entrances and my exits and it completely fixed the problem.
I went auto-x today. There was alot of oversteer and so much understeer I could barely drive... I started to SLOW my movements and SLOW my acceleration and I did amazing.. The back RARELY kicked out (while understeer was still a little bad) I think I might have had too little air in the front. But for the most part the camber DEFINANTLY helped. I'll keep you guys updated and when I buy new front tires to match the rears that should take care of the problem

The stats should be online soon. I'll post them when they do. I won 1st in my class by god knows how much. (I did novice class) But my problem this time was I was driving as if I had racing tires and these just couldn't keep up so I slowed down my corner entrances and my exits and it completely fixed the problem.
ya you did good today 
< Driver of the blue integra infront of you.
btw let me know if you hear from the guy in the blue s2k with the race tires. I wanted to ask him some questions haha. Thinking about buying a s2k soon.

< Driver of the blue integra infront of you.
btw let me know if you hear from the guy in the blue s2k with the race tires. I wanted to ask him some questions haha. Thinking about buying a s2k soon.
Originally Posted by y4ngel,Apr 8 2006, 02:46 PM
ya you did good today 
< Driver of the blue integra infront of you.
btw let me know if you hear from the guy in the blue s2k with the race tires. I wanted to ask him some questions haha. Thinking about buying a s2k soon.

< Driver of the blue integra infront of you.
btw let me know if you hear from the guy in the blue s2k with the race tires. I wanted to ask him some questions haha. Thinking about buying a s2k soon.
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