MMisencik157

I see a lot of people saying they run the popular combination of xp10 front and xp8 rear pads. Are you changing pads before and after the going to the track? I know running pads that will supposedly pull street and track duty tend to not do well on the track. I put ferodo ds2500 on my car now in an attempt to find a happy medium but they still leave me with fade and frustration on the track.
My question is whether or not it would be a good idea to run xp8 front and rear or xp10 front xp8 rear for dd and track duty. Also I see that PFC 97 compound has an operating temp range from 167F – 2000F. Would that make it another option?
I do about 5 track days per year but don’t put too many miles on my car in between (just to and from class, grocery store, and occasional back road session). I am 19 years old so I don’t care about noise or excessive dust, I am just sick of fade at the track.

psychoazn

XP10/XP8 can work for daily driving, but they'll likely make noise. Unless you're in freezing temps, they have more bite than OEM pads, even when cold.

Silver9k

You can daily the carbotechs, but it sounds like you are starting to get towards the fast driver club...You'll start to realize street pads are great on the street, track pads are great on the track, inbetween pads are really good at neither. Solution, swap your pads and rotors before track events...it only takes 1-1.5 hours and is a good time to check out the suspension components and make sure everything is sound.

'09S2K

I'm running the Project Mu Club Racer pads and I don't foresee any problems with them...daily and track.

I am coming from Hawk HP+ which I was exceeding their potential.

ZDan

I've dailied on XP8's, not a big deal. In my experience there was a loss of bite when cold, but they warm up quickly enough. Dust isn't that bad (for a track pad) and cleans up relatively easily. Noise is reduced after a couple of track days, but still there...

I have also streeted on XP10s on my 240Z, but just to and from the track.

IMO, XP8s and XP10s are pretty streetable.

spets

XP10's will squeal on the street. I mean like a school bus coming to a stop squeal. You'll be trying to hide in the car when you pull up to the lights.

XP8's are pretty quiet. If you have the music off you might hear a bit of a squeak, but it won't be attracting attention.

So.. Can you daily them? yes. Do you want to live with the squeal? up to you.

I swap my front pads and rotors when I go to the track, and I leave my XP8's on in the rear at all times.

psychoazn

Properly bedded XP12/10/8 make almost no noise. How do I know? Because I daily drive on them

However, the noise comes back after a week or so with the XP12. XP10 and XP8 noise goes away permanently once bedded.

robrob

My XP10s and 8s are very quiet on the street--I've never heard them squeal.

MMisencik157

So majority of the people leave their xp10/xp8 on permanently? Are you using the oem/aftermarket shims to help with noise?

ScienceofSpeed

For dual purpose, and if you do not want to change the pads frequently, I recommend using the AX6 Panther Plus compound. This pad will dust and squeal less than the XP10/8 compound. They will wear approximately 10-20% faster than the XP10/8 on the track but I think is the compromise you're looking for. We ran this compound for 5 weekend events on our Time Trial S2000 before the XP10/8 compound was available with excellent results.

http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produc...000/Carbotech/

When your rotor change is due, consider these, which will increase the life of the pad by decrease rotor temperature:
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/produc.../brake_rotors/

regards,
-- Chris