AP1 to be competitive in BS ?
I would sell it and pay a few more thousand for an ap2. In STR is not at that much of a disadvantage, I'd say .2-.3 seconds over an AP2. The AP1 is lighter but the gearing causes it to accelerate slower and it's also less torquie in the mid-range.
The swaybar you ordered should be the right size. Almost identical to the one I had to have custom fabricated in 2000. The other issue with tail walk out was that the original shocks had too high a bump rate. (On smooth roads the car pushes.) Koni yellows fixed the walk-out, assuming you are not going for the kilo-dollar shocks until you are sure.
I trust you realize that some of the advice, like sell your car, is if you plan to compete in National events.
Personally I think your model year 2000 in Silverstone with black interior is the best model there is. That I have one has nothing to do with my opinion.
I trust you realize that some of the advice, like sell your car, is if you plan to compete in National events.
Personally I think your model year 2000 in Silverstone with black interior is the best model there is. That I have one has nothing to do with my opinion.
What is your goal? To have fun? To win locally? To win Nationals?
An AP1 is damn fun with 225 Dunlop Z2 or Hankook RS3V2 or Bstone Rival tires (pick the ones that work best for your site/weather) and a bigger front bar. It can definitely win locally in Street class with a good driver. Don't forget that 'not competitive' at the National level can be 1/2 to 1 second back. That's typically well within the range of driver noise at the local level.
I'm running my car in STR because it's tons of fun, but be warned that there's a lot more cost and potential for screwing something up than Street. You can make your car awesome or terrible, depending on what parts you choose. Some people like the challenge of learning what does and doesn't work, some people just want to drive.
If you want to win Nationals, I'd go with an AP2. We hit a deer coming back from Spring Nats in Lincoln - I started thinking about replacing my 2001 with a 2006 or later car as soon as someone said it might be totalled. Not totalled - still having fun in STR!
An AP1 is damn fun with 225 Dunlop Z2 or Hankook RS3V2 or Bstone Rival tires (pick the ones that work best for your site/weather) and a bigger front bar. It can definitely win locally in Street class with a good driver. Don't forget that 'not competitive' at the National level can be 1/2 to 1 second back. That's typically well within the range of driver noise at the local level.
I'm running my car in STR because it's tons of fun, but be warned that there's a lot more cost and potential for screwing something up than Street. You can make your car awesome or terrible, depending on what parts you choose. Some people like the challenge of learning what does and doesn't work, some people just want to drive.
If you want to win Nationals, I'd go with an AP2. We hit a deer coming back from Spring Nats in Lincoln - I started thinking about replacing my 2001 with a 2006 or later car as soon as someone said it might be totalled. Not totalled - still having fun in STR!
What is your goal? To have fun? To win locally? To win Nationals?
An AP1 is damn fun with 225 Dunlop Z2 or Hankook RS3V2 or Bstone Rival tires (pick the ones that work best for your site/weather) and a bigger front bar. It can definitely win locally in Street class with a good driver. Don't forget that 'not competitive' at the National level can be 1/2 to 1 second back. That's typically well within the range of driver noise at the local level.
I'm running my car in STR because it's tons of fun, but be warned that there's a lot more cost and potential for screwing something up than Street. You can make your car awesome or terrible, depending on what parts you choose. Some people like the challenge of learning what does and doesn't work, some people just want to drive.
If you want to win Nationals, I'd go with an AP2. We hit a deer coming back from Spring Nats in Lincoln - I started thinking about replacing my 2001 with a 2006 or later car as soon as someone said it might be totalled. Not totalled - still having fun in STR!
An AP1 is damn fun with 225 Dunlop Z2 or Hankook RS3V2 or Bstone Rival tires (pick the ones that work best for your site/weather) and a bigger front bar. It can definitely win locally in Street class with a good driver. Don't forget that 'not competitive' at the National level can be 1/2 to 1 second back. That's typically well within the range of driver noise at the local level.
I'm running my car in STR because it's tons of fun, but be warned that there's a lot more cost and potential for screwing something up than Street. You can make your car awesome or terrible, depending on what parts you choose. Some people like the challenge of learning what does and doesn't work, some people just want to drive.
If you want to win Nationals, I'd go with an AP2. We hit a deer coming back from Spring Nats in Lincoln - I started thinking about replacing my 2001 with a 2006 or later car as soon as someone said it might be totalled. Not totalled - still having fun in STR!
Originally Posted by captain_pants' timestamp='1408325642' post='23290873
An AP1 is damn fun with 225 Dunlop Z2 or Hankook RS3V2 or Bstone Rival tires (pick the ones that work best for your site/weather) and a bigger front bar.
-Marc
My wild guess: 0.25 seconds faster for 225 all-around vs. 205/225. +/-0.5 seconds error tolerance.
The nice thing about the big front bar is the reduction of inside wheelspin and rear tires that work a little harder in a corner before they slide. But then the car is a little pushy so the bigger front tires help with that.
If it matters; I run four 225 all-seasons on bored-out AP1 rear wheels for commuting to work with no changes to the STR setup. Balance is darn good! They're 440+ treadwear tires, but I can still have fun when conditions warrant. Plus I can rotate them for even wear!
The nice thing about the big front bar is the reduction of inside wheelspin and rear tires that work a little harder in a corner before they slide. But then the car is a little pushy so the bigger front tires help with that.
If it matters; I run four 225 all-seasons on bored-out AP1 rear wheels for commuting to work with no changes to the STR setup. Balance is darn good! They're 440+ treadwear tires, but I can still have fun when conditions warrant. Plus I can rotate them for even wear!
FWIW, I hated the Hankooks on my car and switched back Dunlops as soon as they hit the wear bars. But I also hated the 'kooks on Lane Borg's car and he seems to like them just fine, so YMMV. If you prefer a stiffer tire, you'll probably want Dunlops.
+1 on both statements. Hankooks pretty much just ignore any small input you give them, and take their sweet time responding to the large inputs. Lots of people are obviously going very fast on them, but my incompetent driving abilities can't handle them.
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