I always love to share these videos when people talk about AP2 versus AP1. And what better way to enjoy a comparison than via a Best Motoring video. Even better, they applied the Scientific Method for the test, and had no selfish motivation to bias their results one way or the other, or to have some question their results for that reason The AP1 was tested to be about 1 second slower than the AP2 around a course roughly 1:10 long. By adding the AP2 sized wheels and tires, the AP1 went .5 faster. By downgrading to the AP1 sized wheels and tires, the AP2 went .5 slower So if you want a fair battle between AP1 and AP2, have them swap wheels and tires.

Hey it's all good, this likely my last year driving S2000's in Solo. But I have just been saying it for years, taken many data points and felt it was a good time to share the videos again. No way should the AP1 compete against the AP2 in stock form. Even giving them the AP2 wheel sizes, the car is still slower. But at least it's far more fair than it normally would be. I hope they move the AP1 to Cstreet so that the solo community can give entry level, budget minded drivers a fair shot to win.


AP1 vs AP2 comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfsBvOuF0hw

F20 vs F22 Battle: (Tsuchiya downshifts to 1st in AP2 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UadsHqq7fK4

 

I'm not sure where you would've shifted 3 times. I think after working on the 4th heat and watching, I probably should've been shifting twice. As for claiming to get beat by a car and not a driver, I'm not saying that either. I would love to co drive that STI or have him drive my to see how the results would change. The AP1 is competitive almost any other region I go to, heck I've paxed 3rd locally in it, so I'm not the most terrible driver out there. It's just not going to compete against an AP2, newer STI's, or even FRC c5's given equal drivers.

 

1. Downshift in first turnaround.
2. Back to second before the even spaced slalom.
3. Back to first for the tight turnaround by the trailer
4. But back to second in the straight before the final turnaround.
5. Possibly another down and up shift for the final turnaround, but I think in an AP1 you could make that in second.

So down-up-down-up. Four shifts.

Can someone please post Random1s Nats shifting vid or Pfannenschmidt's Nats vid?

 

And again, it may or may not compete against those cars, but watching the drives firsthand, you got beaten by driving.

 

I was shifting at the trailer but not the turnaround. Any time you want to drive my car with me you're welcome to show me how it's done.

 

Well I was shifting 2 times then and should've possibly been shifting 4 times but no way did I see the need for 6.

 

UGHHH NO WAY NICK! After STR the natural progression would be BSP! Please do it. Sweep the classes in S2000's =)

 

Naw, I'll stick to co-driving with my hot wife and my GT3, thanks for the offer though.

Listen man, you sound like you're a little new so I'll just explain it to you. My wife and I co-drove with national champion and champion grade S2000 drivers in our car for years. Datalogged and videos. I can tell a mediocre driver from a great driver from the outside of the car. You're not bad for a local-grade driver, but you are not a top quality driver regardless of the car. You didn't drive it that well that day from a mechanics and a technique standpoint. Your raw times were the same as E-street when the top E-street guys weren't even there.

Basically you haven't been so you don't know what a National caliber AP1 drive looks like. So you can believe me or not, doesn't matter to me.

It's like the Brian Peters effect. He won STR in a 350z and the car got kicked to STU where he is dominating... because he is an awesome driver who is on the apexes and maximizes tire efficiency. Scores of 350 STU clone builds have popped up across the nation with none of them having the success that Peters has... go figure.

 

This is what AP1 driving and shifting is supposed to be like:


http://youtu.be/RuFqiftsr-s

 

Yeah, Robert is my HERO!!!!