Originally Posted by gptoyz

So back in 07 I was at buttonwillow fleshing out my GSXR1000 shaking down my new setup with ohlins superbike forks, I had some ducted front, vented front fender and Brembo GP monobloc calipers with Axxis Carbon Fiber Rotors. I forgot what level of brake pad I bought but suffice it to say, it was really expensive. Coming down the front straight for my first "hot" lap I grabbed the brakes and the bike wasn't stopping. I squeezed harder, but I wasn't going to make turn 1. One of the age old adages of racing is "Wait till you see god, then brake," well I saw him and had brief exchange of expletives, I let off the brakes, stood the bike up and held on for dear life as I time warped from sun rise to cotton corners. Fast forward to the runway or drag strip, instead of dipping the bike in for sweeper, again I was running in way to hot and instead of CW13 like everyone else, I bailed and ran CW1 using mazda star config. Something was seriously wrong, so I came off track and headed straight for my garage and asked one of my friends - way faster than me, to take my bike out and tell me what the hell was wrong. He comes back after spending no more than 5 minutes running 2.75 laps and tells me the problem is my balls aren't big enough. Granted, I wasn't as fast as him, I wasn't a slouch and I could run sub 2s. But my inferior skill level meant that I couldn't get on the gas fast and as hard, which meant I wasn't approaching turns fast enough. I didn't have enough courage to late brake enough which meant the Ohlins SBK fork's anti dive system prevented any weight from shifting to the front, which meant that I was further exacerbating the lack of heat in the brakes. Any heat I was generating, was being evacuated by the Billet Aluminum Monobloc calipers and vented fender. What I needed was a major down grade, I needed standard rotors and pads that would fit my calipers. Racers are a friendly bunch but no one had a set of rotors lying around for Forged Magnesium Marchesinis or pads for my brembos.

Originally Posted by warmmilk

I don't see what this has to do with a BBK... if anything this is an argument for a BBK since you can get away with running a milder pad that works at lower temps. the moral of your story is don't get pads that start working at 1000 degrees when you're a noob. Just cause someone gets a BBK doesn't mean they have to get the most aggressive race pads in existence to go with it. I recommend an aggressive street pad or a mild race pad to go along with a BBK for someone newish to lapping days.

Originally Posted by duffman13

Ever see the top gear where James May drives the Renault F1 car? This sounds like that.
TL;DW - He's too scared to go fast enough to get heat in the tires and brakes or actually use the aero, so the car is actually more dangerous and likely to spin or underbrake a corner.

Originally Posted by warmmilk

yes, but a BBK doesn't do that, race pads do that (and tires sticky enough to shorten the stopping distance). A BBK with street pads will brake like stock brakes with street pads, the difference being it'll take longer to overheat with the BBK.