Evasive-SPEC Eibach Multi-Pro R2
^ Good write up. Just to clarifying my statement about the 50%. I was not assuming that this setup is too stiff because only 50% of the available dampening was used.
I was questioning the valving on these shocks if only 50% of the adjustment range is used. To me from a design standpoint it does not make a whole lot of sense to have a range of adjustment, if the shock is only utilizing one side of the range. In this example the lower 50% of the range is used on the track. I think it is fairly safe to say that if the lower 50% is used on track, the upper 50% will not be used on the street, and will probably rarely ever get used. To sum my thoughts up, I was wonder why the valving is setup this way. I would think after testing, the shocks could be re-valved to better utilize the full range of adjustment. This ties back into my original post about using the upper range on track, and lower range on the street. With that said, I would not want a shock that is maxed out on either end of the adjustment range. I am just basing my thoughts off my experience working with Motons, Penske's, and Sachs systems in the ALMS and World Challenge. I also used to work at Penske Shocks.
When you say these are a great match for non-staggered cars can you elaborate on that? The spring rate is the same, so can we say the valving front to rear was designed in a way to increase dampening on the front to compensate for the increased front grip?
Not trying to pick your product apart. Just trying to better understand the design and idea behind it. I applaud you and Evasive for doing testing and continuously bringing new products to the market place
Did you ever run the Tein RS when they were 10k springs all around? I had a set of those on my last car, and would be very interested to hear your comparison of those compared to the newer Tein SRC's.
I was questioning the valving on these shocks if only 50% of the adjustment range is used. To me from a design standpoint it does not make a whole lot of sense to have a range of adjustment, if the shock is only utilizing one side of the range. In this example the lower 50% of the range is used on the track. I think it is fairly safe to say that if the lower 50% is used on track, the upper 50% will not be used on the street, and will probably rarely ever get used. To sum my thoughts up, I was wonder why the valving is setup this way. I would think after testing, the shocks could be re-valved to better utilize the full range of adjustment. This ties back into my original post about using the upper range on track, and lower range on the street. With that said, I would not want a shock that is maxed out on either end of the adjustment range. I am just basing my thoughts off my experience working with Motons, Penske's, and Sachs systems in the ALMS and World Challenge. I also used to work at Penske Shocks.
When you say these are a great match for non-staggered cars can you elaborate on that? The spring rate is the same, so can we say the valving front to rear was designed in a way to increase dampening on the front to compensate for the increased front grip?
Not trying to pick your product apart. Just trying to better understand the design and idea behind it. I applaud you and Evasive for doing testing and continuously bringing new products to the market place
Did you ever run the Tein RS when they were 10k springs all around? I had a set of those on my last car, and would be very interested to hear your comparison of those compared to the newer Tein SRC's.
A couple of main points - Unlike KW's they are rebuildable in a reasonable time frame simply by shipping them to the Corona location, you can custom spec any set of springs eibach makes to any particular valving within a large range, They are stainless steel and come supplied with top hats.
As far as shock experience goes they have alot but most of it as contract work with other companies it seems
Also sorry to be the one to say this but tein is garbage you can't have decent suspension where your using garbage cheap steel and poorly wound springs to begin with.
Also some random spring rate number has 0 bearing on any other suspension 16kg is for little kids to dream about tein is way over sprung to hide the fact the dampening is garbage.
Eibach ships there kits with a single set of springs and optimized valving additional rates and valving are post sale considering the low numbers they will sell this kind of seems silly actually.
Pricing on these appears to be about 2100 street but I would really like to see the non remote spec ones on the market as well which are about 1500.
The standard eibach kit is available now.
Originally Posted by robinson' timestamp='1309386487' post='20732736
All the crowd needs now is a shock dyno to back up what is being said. It would be a real shame not to provide this information.
A couple of main points - Unlike KW's they are rebuildable in a reasonable time frame simply by shipping them to the Corona location, you can custom spec any set of springs eibach makes to any particular valving within a large range, They are stainless steel and come supplied with top hats.
As far as shock experience goes they have alot but most of it as contract work with other companies it seems
Also sorry to be the one to say this but tein is garbage you can't have decent suspension where your using garbage cheap steel and poorly wound springs to begin with.
Also some random spring rate number has 0 bearing on any other suspension 16kg is for little kids to dream about tein is way over sprung to hide the fact the dampening is garbage.
Eibach ships there kits with a single set of springs and optimized valving additional rates and valving are post sale considering the low numbers they will sell this kind of seems silly actually.
Pricing on these appears to be about 2100 street but I would really like to see the non remote spec ones on the market as well which are about 1500.
The standard eibach kit is available now.
Thumbs up to Evasive Motorsports and Maxrev for, again, doing testing on existing equipment and working with the suspension companies to build a much more refined suspension kit that's ready out of the box.
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Update!
• 16kg/mm 2.5" I.D. Eibach Racing Springs (ERS) (Non Evasive Version is available at 12kg/mm)
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In the description it says 2.5" I.D. Springs, but in the picture it shows 7" 2.25" I.D. 900lb springs, which does it come with 2.5" or 2.25" I.D.?
Update!
• 16kg/mm 2.5" I.D. Eibach Racing Springs (ERS) (Non Evasive Version is available at 12kg/mm)
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In the description it says 2.5" I.D. Springs, but in the picture it shows 7" 2.25" I.D. 900lb springs, which does it come with 2.5" or 2.25" I.D.?







