Evasive-SPEC Eibach Multi-Pro R2
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Originally Posted by EvasiveMotorsports' timestamp='1309072092' post='20720052
These shocks are made by Eibach in house in their California facility. We have worked closely with their engineers to develop these shocks.
Spring rates can be changed just give us a call for more information... but based on testing 16kg and custom valving proves to be the best setup for majority of street / r-comp tire cars. We even tested these on the street to get a good feel on the streetability of the shocks.
Spring rates can be changed just give us a call for more information... but based on testing 16kg and custom valving proves to be the best setup for majority of street / r-comp tire cars. We even tested these on the street to get a good feel on the streetability of the shocks.
I am going to base my spring choice on the soft side of what my fellow STR competitors are currently running, not sure what that is yet, but will find out before ordering these.
You said " based on testing 16kg and custom valving" was the test with them as produced, or after you had them custom valved? Will I need to have them re-valved before using them, or will they be ready to go from the factory?
Any chance you can post pricing and availability? Or PM?
Thanks again.
Jeff
The shocks are valved from the factory for the rates we picked. Introductory price is $2,699.00 Shipped for both Evasive-Spec (900lbs/900lbs) & Standard (425lbs/400lbs) Multi-Pro R2. Either setup cannot be ordered with custom spring rates and will need to be purchased separately. If you have any questions, freel free to call or PM. Thank you.
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^ When you picked the valving, were you basing this off of the Evasive Spec Tein's? While reading through the test the article made mention that less than 50% of the adjustment range was used. Seeing that these shocks only have about 10 clicks of adjustment, wouldn't it be better to change the valving so that the track settings are utilizing the upper range of adjustment, and the lower range could be used for more street friendly use? For me I would prefer to see a shock package with more adjustment, or better use of the adjustment range. It seems these are setup to be all one sided. If you are only using the lower range of adjustment on the track, I have to believe they will be too aggressive for the street then.
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Jeff,
the shocks are valved from the factory for the rates we picked. Introductory price is 2699 shipped for the shocks, give us a call or PM for any custom rates or changes.
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You are inching me closer to buying these. Last questions:
1. Are these in stock? How long would it take to get these if not in stock?
2. Do you have a shock dyno graph?
I will be running 750/650 springs to start with, maybe 800/700.
Thank you.
Jeff
Jeff,
the shocks are valved from the factory for the rates we picked. Introductory price is 2699 shipped for the shocks, give us a call or PM for any custom rates or changes.
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You are inching me closer to buying these. Last questions:
1. Are these in stock? How long would it take to get these if not in stock?
2. Do you have a shock dyno graph?
I will be running 750/650 springs to start with, maybe 800/700.
Thank you.
Jeff
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Evasive SRC vs. Evasive Pro R2:
They both have the same 16kg springs with mono-tub design with remove reservoirs but thats where the similarities end. I am still running the Evasive Pro-2 and will be keeping the Evasive SRC as a back up. Lap times are similar but the Eibach is slightly more comfortable on the street. Both are build on different suspension philosophy (short stroke shock vs. full length shock) and both have pros and cons.
I still daily my S2000 and the ride is acceptable even driving though streets in SF with the Evasive Pro-2. We have tested Motons CS and JRZ RS-Pro with similar or higher spring rates as well and they are all very comfortable on the street. High spring rate does not necessary equal rough street ride. The high speed valving on the Evasive Pro R2 very good as it takes rough patches of the road very well.
The seat also has to do with how you perceive ride quality as well. The stock seat is bit more springy (?) then proper racing seat like Recaro SPG that we use.
In terms of valving, we never had to use the stiffest setting on any of the damper (Moton CS, JRZ RS-Pro, Evasive SRC) that we tested.
I think its a wrong statement to assume that the system is too stiff because only 50% of available dampening was used. To me, its about controlling or timing the roll and pitch rate on how to effetely apply forces on the tire.
This varies with the tire compound, width, sway and stance which varies from car to car. The adjustment is also very wide on the Eibach Pro-2 so each click makes a significant changes to the low to mid valve speed with out impacting the high speed valving.
The Evasive Pro R2 was tested with track performance in mind. I feel that the spring rate is a great match for a non-stagger S2000 with high end street (RE11, AD08, RS3) or R Comp tires. If you feel that the spring rate does not match your setup, I would recommend the standard Eibach Pro R2 with the (F7.6kg/R7.1kg) spring. However, if you feel that your car will grown into a fairly modified track car like mine, then my recommendation is to go with the Evasive Pro-2. Both can be ordered through Evasive.
Edited: Just learned that standard Eibach models will use (F7.6kg/R7.1kg) springs
Evasive SRC vs. Evasive Pro R2:
They both have the same 16kg springs with mono-tub design with remove reservoirs but thats where the similarities end. I am still running the Evasive Pro-2 and will be keeping the Evasive SRC as a back up. Lap times are similar but the Eibach is slightly more comfortable on the street. Both are build on different suspension philosophy (short stroke shock vs. full length shock) and both have pros and cons.
I still daily my S2000 and the ride is acceptable even driving though streets in SF with the Evasive Pro-2. We have tested Motons CS and JRZ RS-Pro with similar or higher spring rates as well and they are all very comfortable on the street. High spring rate does not necessary equal rough street ride. The high speed valving on the Evasive Pro R2 very good as it takes rough patches of the road very well.
The seat also has to do with how you perceive ride quality as well. The stock seat is bit more springy (?) then proper racing seat like Recaro SPG that we use.
In terms of valving, we never had to use the stiffest setting on any of the damper (Moton CS, JRZ RS-Pro, Evasive SRC) that we tested.
I think its a wrong statement to assume that the system is too stiff because only 50% of available dampening was used. To me, its about controlling or timing the roll and pitch rate on how to effetely apply forces on the tire.
This varies with the tire compound, width, sway and stance which varies from car to car. The adjustment is also very wide on the Eibach Pro-2 so each click makes a significant changes to the low to mid valve speed with out impacting the high speed valving.
The Evasive Pro R2 was tested with track performance in mind. I feel that the spring rate is a great match for a non-stagger S2000 with high end street (RE11, AD08, RS3) or R Comp tires. If you feel that the spring rate does not match your setup, I would recommend the standard Eibach Pro R2 with the (F7.6kg/R7.1kg) spring. However, if you feel that your car will grown into a fairly modified track car like mine, then my recommendation is to go with the Evasive Pro-2. Both can be ordered through Evasive.
Edited: Just learned that standard Eibach models will use (F7.6kg/R7.1kg) springs