EVO X gsr
Originally Posted by tlee1234' timestamp='1326215155' post='21303190
Do you have the Evo 10 gsr or a Lancer version?

IMHO, I would not trade your s2k for an Evo ESPECIALLY since you live in Sunny Southern California.
You will also pay a lot more in consumables if you track an Evo. My friend has an Evo 9 that he races TT in, and he has burned through a set of carbotech XP12/10's in 1 day at CMP. It is a heavy and powerful awd car, so tires go quick also. He's had to have his tranny rebuilt and a new clutch put in within 1 season of tracking it. His car puts down around 400 whp. It is a very fast car, but you have to pay to play.
I would never get rid of the S for an Evo. Even with all that power on Hoosiers, he still can't keep up with my 194 whp S2k.
I would never get rid of the S for an Evo. Even with all that power on Hoosiers, he still can't keep up with my 194 whp S2k.
I had a 2005 Evo that I sold because it was just too much money to track it. It eats through tires, brakes, and fluids (tranny, diff, transfer case). You really get hit hard in the wallet on the fuel economy; it gets 6mpg on track whereas I get around 11mpg in the S2k.
I used to own an EVO X and still own an S2K.
This is just my personal experience and opinion.
The EVO X is AMAZING. Fast, aggressive, completely and totally brutal. It will race the track for you, just point and click.
But that's the problem. It's a "bought" experience. The true feeling of the car is lost on the inexperienced (such as myself at the time I first tracked the EVO). Is it faster than an S2K? Sure. Will you learn as much from an EVO X on the track? Not likely. It does too much work for you. Unless you have lots of experience and know what the car does for you and where the weakpoints are, it's a frustrating "beginner" car. I mean beginner in the sense of the professional market.
Also, the price... just maintenance. The EVO runs flawlessly, until it wears something out, and then you get to deal with the magic of Mitsubishi engineering to fix/replace whatever. Works perfect until you have to fix it... The S2K on the other hand is a car you can thrash over and over and over and over, and she refuses to quit. The maintenance is relatively cheap and the bang for the buck is UNBEATABLE with the S2K.
I ended up selling my EVO X, NOT because it was a bad car. On the contrary it was "too good". But all the goodness comes at a price. The S2K was built from the ground up, purpose built by a man with passion. The EVO X is an heir in a long line of cars that take a solid chassis, trims the fat, bulks up the good stuff and lets you have at it. The truth is the EVO X is a powerful Lancer, and all the EVO parts break (OFTEN). The S2K is an S2K and all the S2K parts hold up. Even with MODERATE aggressive driving, you WILL replace the clutch and tires annually on the EVO, and you'll go through a pricey $2K brake job every other year. The clutch is a $1600 job (and I've done it myself...HOLY CRAP IT SUCKS). The tires are $1600 and last you about a year, don't even consider going with lower quality tires or you aren't getting the power out of the EVO, because it'll never make it to the ground!
Both cars are amazing.
EVO - Faster, grippier, expensiver
S2K - Slower, pretty sticky, cheaper
EVO annual maintenance cost (if track used): $5000
S2K annual maintenance cost (if track used): $1500
Neither car is bad, just choose what makes sense for you. I for one am thrilled that I stuck with my S2K!
This is just my personal experience and opinion.
The EVO X is AMAZING. Fast, aggressive, completely and totally brutal. It will race the track for you, just point and click.
But that's the problem. It's a "bought" experience. The true feeling of the car is lost on the inexperienced (such as myself at the time I first tracked the EVO). Is it faster than an S2K? Sure. Will you learn as much from an EVO X on the track? Not likely. It does too much work for you. Unless you have lots of experience and know what the car does for you and where the weakpoints are, it's a frustrating "beginner" car. I mean beginner in the sense of the professional market.
Also, the price... just maintenance. The EVO runs flawlessly, until it wears something out, and then you get to deal with the magic of Mitsubishi engineering to fix/replace whatever. Works perfect until you have to fix it... The S2K on the other hand is a car you can thrash over and over and over and over, and she refuses to quit. The maintenance is relatively cheap and the bang for the buck is UNBEATABLE with the S2K.
I ended up selling my EVO X, NOT because it was a bad car. On the contrary it was "too good". But all the goodness comes at a price. The S2K was built from the ground up, purpose built by a man with passion. The EVO X is an heir in a long line of cars that take a solid chassis, trims the fat, bulks up the good stuff and lets you have at it. The truth is the EVO X is a powerful Lancer, and all the EVO parts break (OFTEN). The S2K is an S2K and all the S2K parts hold up. Even with MODERATE aggressive driving, you WILL replace the clutch and tires annually on the EVO, and you'll go through a pricey $2K brake job every other year. The clutch is a $1600 job (and I've done it myself...HOLY CRAP IT SUCKS). The tires are $1600 and last you about a year, don't even consider going with lower quality tires or you aren't getting the power out of the EVO, because it'll never make it to the ground!

Both cars are amazing.
EVO - Faster, grippier, expensiver
S2K - Slower, pretty sticky, cheaper
EVO annual maintenance cost (if track used): $5000
S2K annual maintenance cost (if track used): $1500
Neither car is bad, just choose what makes sense for you. I for one am thrilled that I stuck with my S2K!
Well I can't tell if you're being a smartass, but I'll assume good faith and answer your question.
I'm quoting a rough price from the dealership because I wasn't going to assume DIY work since this is a new prospective owner. On the S2k the answer for a brake job really is as simple as "new brake pads and rotors". However, not the case with the EVO. Remember the brembo system is all computer controlled, and one of the fancy tricks of the All-Wheel Control System is utilizing braking to adjust torque on the wheels to prevent slippage. Ok, no big deal, right? Nope, it's a big deal. The AWC-S has a line (that I discovered in my clutch replacement) that's vacuum sealed and runs from the transfer case to the rear diff and is an essential part of how the brakes work (mostly during cornering). Part of Brembo and Mitsubishi's recommended service included the maintenance of those sensors, fluid flushing, and replacement. Can you just slap new pads and rotors on? Sure, but if you're tracking it, I don't think anybody is gonna go cheap and skip out on the services that need attention.
If for some reason as an ACTUAL owner I'm somehow not convincing enough (since I did spend my own money on it, and have taken the damn thing apart myself). Go to SocalEvo.net or EVOXFORUMS.com and read about the maintenance. I'm not the only one who had to service his clutch every 10,000 miles, i'm not the only one who had to replace my tires every 7000 miles, i'm not the only one who's brakes were smoked at 25,000 miles.
Originally Posted by PedalFaster' timestamp='1326311591' post='21307514
[quote name='fesoferbex' timestamp='1326310582' post='21307447']
you'll go through a pricey $2K brake job every other year.
you'll go through a pricey $2K brake job every other year.
Well I can't tell if you're being a smartass, but I'll assume good faith and answer your question.
I'm quoting a rough price from the dealership because I wasn't going to assume DIY work since this is a new prospective owner. On the S2k the answer for a brake job really is as simple as "new brake pads and rotors". However, not the case with the EVO. Remember the brembo system is all computer controlled, and one of the fancy tricks of the All-Wheel Control System is utilizing braking to adjust torque on the wheels to prevent slippage. Ok, no big deal, right? Nope, it's a big deal. The AWC-S has a line (that I discovered in my clutch replacement) that's vacuum sealed and runs from the transfer case to the rear diff and is an essential part of how the brakes work (mostly during cornering). Part of Brembo and Mitsubishi's recommended service included the maintenance of those sensors, fluid flushing, and replacement. Can you just slap new pads and rotors on? Sure, but if you're tracking it, I don't think anybody is gonna go cheap and skip out on the services that need attention.
If for some reason as an ACTUAL owner I'm somehow not convincing enough (since I did spend my own money on it, and have taken the damn thing apart myself). Go to SocalEvo.net or EVOXFORUMS.com and read about the maintenance. I'm not the only one who had to service his clutch every 10,000 miles, i'm not the only one who had to replace my tires every 7000 miles, i'm not the only one who's brakes were smoked at 25,000 miles.
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Wow... that's some intense maintenance.
I don't think PedalFaster's comment was sarcastic in any way; I was wondering the same thing myself.
What is the fluid in the trunk that is used in the EvoX? I have a buddy with an EvoX and the fluid level drops unless he turns something off...
Originally Posted by PedalFaster' timestamp='1326311591' post='21307514
[quote name='fesoferbex' timestamp='1326310582' post='21307447']
you'll go through a pricey $2K brake job every other year.
you'll go through a pricey $2K brake job every other year.
Well I can't tell if you're being a smartass, but I'll assume good faith and answer your question.
I'm quoting a rough price from the dealership because I wasn't going to assume DIY work since this is a new prospective owner. On the S2k the answer for a brake job really is as simple as "new brake pads and rotors". However, not the case with the EVO. Remember the brembo system is all computer controlled, and one of the fancy tricks of the All-Wheel Control System is utilizing braking to adjust torque on the wheels to prevent slippage. Ok, no big deal, right? Nope, it's a big deal. The AWC-S has a line (that I discovered in my clutch replacement) that's vacuum sealed and runs from the transfer case to the rear diff and is an essential part of how the brakes work (mostly during cornering). Part of Brembo and Mitsubishi's recommended service included the maintenance of those sensors, fluid flushing, and replacement. Can you just slap new pads and rotors on? Sure, but if you're tracking it, I don't think anybody is gonna go cheap and skip out on the services that need attention.
If for some reason as an ACTUAL owner I'm somehow not convincing enough (since I did spend my own money on it, and have taken the damn thing apart myself). Go to SocalEvo.net or EVOXFORUMS.com and read about the maintenance. I'm not the only one who had to service his clutch every 10,000 miles, i'm not the only one who had to replace my tires every 7000 miles, i'm not the only one who's brakes were smoked at 25,000 miles.
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I must have missed it, but I haven't read or heard anything extraordinary in terms of maintenance on the Evo X. I'm sure that the maintenance costs are a bit more, but you're making it sound like it's an exotic. lol I do agree the clutch will most likely go very early.
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