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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Ben @ aj-racing just recommende me changing the rear sway to something softer(edited), the more I think about it the more it makes sense..... good thread
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ShocK,Dec 27 2007, 06:00 PM
Ben @ aj-racing just recommende me changing the rear sway, the more I think about it the more it makes sense..... good thread
Changing it in what way? Stiffer, softer? I'm curious...

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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softer, sorry, forgot that part lol If you think about it if you get the proper softness in the rear this will allow the rear tires more movement and also allow more weight transfer to the rear during corner exit (thinking in autocross mindset) As long as your not packing the front tire your fine I think. But I'm a noob when it somes to S2K tuning, but once I get something adjustable I'll be playing around enough to figure some of this stuff out.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ShocK,Dec 27 2007, 10:00 PM
Ben @ aj-racing just recommende me changing the rear sway to something softer(edited), the more I think about it the more it makes sense..... good thread
It makes perfect sense because if I'm not mistaken, the front sway bar of the AP1 is stiffer than the AP2, but so is the rear sway as well, which is one of the reasons AP1's have been known to have bad cases of "Snap Oversteer". So what a lot of people recommend is to make the rear bar softer (which was one of the changes made to the AP2 to have less oversteer) and that would have the same effect as having an even stiffer front sway bar.

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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Don't forget that stock class autocross allows only a front bar change. Anything larger is a Good Thing but exactly how much is enough is the key. Most of us use the stiffest bars we can on AP1s since tire sizes are a problem. However, it's also up to the driver's style and other mods/adjustments as to what the preferred setup is.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jguerdat,Dec 28 2007, 10:19 AM
Don't forget that stock class autocross allows only a front bar change. Anything larger is a Good Thing but exactly how much is enough is the key. Most of us use the stiffest bars we can on AP1s since tire sizes are a problem. However, it's also up to the driver's style and other mods/adjustments as to what the preferred setup is.
Shock's S2000 is way off of being classed in stock. However, I'd still let him play in stock locally.

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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very nice reads here. I've been trying to determine the best combination for both front and rear for street/and mild auto x/track use(atleast for now).

I've been thinking a good uograde that will be sutible for both is going with something like a cusco/tanabe in the front, and the CR sway in the rear.

Anyone thought of this set-up?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HvRRZ,Dec 28 2007, 10:28 AM
very nice reads here. I've been trying to determine the best combination for both front and rear for street/and mild auto x/track use(atleast for now).

I've been thinking a good uograde that will be sutible for both is going with something like a cusco/tanabe in the front, and the CR sway in the rear.

Anyone thought of this set-up?
If you're not worried about being competitive, why not just save your money, get a good alignment, and unbolt one of the rear endlinks when you're at the track? Voila!

The stock suspension is very, very good for a production car.

For Autocross the car is perfectly balanced with the right alignment and all else stock if you're on street tires. No need for a front bar. When you go to R's things change, I suspect the extra lateral force on the rear wheels cause some dynamic toe changes.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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[QUOTE=daverx7,Dec 28 2007, 10:46 AM] Shock's S2000 is way off of being classed in stock.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ShocK,Dec 27 2007, 06:16 PM
softer, sorry, forgot that part lol If you think about it if you get the proper softness in the rear this will allow the rear tires more movement and also allow more weight transfer to the rear during corner exit (thinking in autocross mindset) As long as your not packing the front tire your fine I think. But I'm a noob when it somes to S2K tuning, but once I get something adjustable I'll be playing around enough to figure some of this stuff out.
I think you/Ben are right. When I put my ST sways on, the rear was WAY too stiff... lots of wheel lift at autox. I put the stock rear sway back on coupled with the ST front and it feels like a great balance. I'd be intetrested to contrast my setup with someone with a softer rear and stock front. You should try to pickup an AP2 rear sway and you can put my 00' front sway on. That would be interesting.....

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