It has been awhile since I looked the FSB, so I apologize in advance if my memory fails me.

I believe you can get to the other holes in the bar if you change where you attached the end links (front vs. back). Here is a link of what I am talking about:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...dpost&p=2056280

A possible notable note: I am using the McMaster-Carr end-links that came with my used modified bar.

-Dave

 

the gendron bar you have to flip these end-links as well

 

I would argue that stiffening both bars would in fact decrease the amount of overall grip available. Sway bars increase lateral weight transfer (stiffer springs do not) therefore placing more load on the outside tires, not to mention lifting the insides.

Point being, there is a point of diminishing returns with a sway bar... up to a point, they might increase available grip by keeping camber angles in check, but beyond that they will definitely decrease the grip available at that end of the car.

 

[QUOTE=jcbarnard,Dec 19 2007, 10:32 AM]
I would argue that stiffening both bars would in fact decrease the amount of overall grip available.

 

Yes anti roll bars primarily alter the rate of transfer and the roll stiffness distribution but they also do one more critical thing, while they do not alter the overall weight being transferred (my statement was too vague), they alter which tire is holding that weight, therefore increasing the load on the outside tire in a turn. They do this because they get the extra resistance needed to resist roll by pushing up on the inside spring, which means that a portion of the weight that is normally pressing down on the inside tire is now being transferred through the anti-roll bar to the outside tire increasing the load the outside tire is carrying. (how much gets transferred depends on the strength of the anti-roll bar).

No a car with really stiff sway bars will have a lot of roll stiffness as the bars will prevent the springs from compressing, but that doesn

 

Hmmm... would this make some sort of sense then?

I have KW V3s.. If i sofen the rebound rate for a better ride but that would cause it to roll more correct? and if am lowered too much I will scrape the fenderwell.
Can I use siffer sway bars front and rear to reduce the roll while cornering and maintain a better ride going straight?

 

A significant difference between a sway bar and a coil spring is that the sway bar will generally have a nonlinear hard-spring response, getting stiffer as the deflection increases. That is why the sway bar has more of a tendency to lift the inside wheel than a spring with equivalent stiffness.

On a rough surface, stiff sway bars can decrease grip by coupling bumps at one wheel so that they affect the other wheel.

 

I got the comptech 32mm front and rear since 3 weeks now and the car is definitly more neutral than before and high speed corners are much more stable.

But for auto-x whats the best setup? replace the 32mm rear sway with the stock ap1 '00 swaybar? and just go with the comptech 32mm front?

I like how the car handles on the street but dont have any expierience on auto-x

 

I just put the 32mm up front but I can't really test it now cause it's too cold. Tires slip too much.

Andre

 

I don't mean to hijack this thread either but I'm in the market for a swaybar as well.
I will be autocrossing this coming year.
Has anyone used the Cusco front bar on street tires with an AP1 car?
I've heard some positive results on an AP2 car but not much info on an AP1.
BTW, I plan on using Bridgestone Potenza RE-01Rs using the stock tire sizes.
Will I still be able to rotate the rear? I guess I don't want the car to understeer too much but would like a little more stability. This past year when I've tried autocrossing with the stock setup on Toyo street tires, I was fishtailing all over the place.
This year I want to be more competitive but without using R compounds
(a least ... not yet).

Thanks.