Haven't heard anything from Gary. Lots of unverified claims all over the boards over this. I'm sure lots of things could seem valid "in theory." In reality, there may not be anyone left to find out. If the class was further established and not so new, we may have more information to prove this wrong/right. Also, what will the final allowances of "limited prep" entail? This could help the SS cars out significantly. Look what a simple computer flash did for the C6Z at the 2012 Spring Nationals.

-Marc

 

He was posting on either SCCAforums or RRAX about it.

 

If (big if) the current SS cars move into BSP as is (no more allowances....i.e camber for GT3's/Elises) than I wouldn't be too worried for tours, but the GT3's are going to light us up at Pro's! BSP already got shafted for Pro's this year anyway.

P.S. My 350z is for sale

 

I don't think the CR can compete with AStovk cars That's a lot of car.

Giving the AP1 bigger wheels will solve a lot of the issues.

Can you say David vs Goliath? Yea lets put a $24,000 car vs a $75k+ car. That makes perfect sense. The truth is no one ever campaigned anything besides the CR seriously. In 2010 when Marc won by over a second he would of won in any car he stepped foot in that day. The people campaigning BS CRs are all great drivers, some of the best drivers in the whole sport. This really slews the results.

 

The problem with moving the CR to AS isnt for the CR drivers, many AS drivers said they would bail if this happened. Jadrice, Mark and I joked about this exact topic with the AS drivers last year. Also, the SCCA guaranteed AS time to establish itself, so this wouldn't happen anytime soon, if at all. The proper course of action for the SCCA is to toss these special production cars (CR, ZOk, MSR, etc) into the appropriate SP class like they did back in the day with the BMW M3 "lightweight" edition.

Thanks Josh, I had a magical set of days in 2010. I guessed the course right on my first runs on both days and the car felt perfect. Its hard to beat any driver who has this going for him/her. Also, it was only 0.9 victory. I nailed the first run on day 2 and had 2 victory laps. I have paid for this luck every year after!

-Marc

 

If they bumped the car out of stock class then don't bump it past ST! I'd be pissed!

I think anyone can seriously win in any car on the right day in STR, just look at the results from every national race.

 

Of course you do, that's why you bailed on your AP1.

 

And instead of saving ~$8K and getting an 06+, bought a CR


I've wanted a CR on and off to run locally on street tires or in RTR, but I just can't justify the price unless the right one at the right price came along.

 

This thought occurred to me about how the CR is the superior car to have....has anyone actually taken a low mileage 08/09 AP2 and set it up properly? I wonder if half of the reason the CR is perceived a bit quicker is also because they tend to be the newest S2000s out there. I'm wondering what a low mileage mint 08/09 AP2 would be capable of in the right hands. It seems like when people go for the AP2 they are running in much higher mileage ones that might not be as tight as they were when brand new.

 

The issue that brought out the "dominance" of the CR was the stiffer springs that let one run 275 A6s up front.

Likely everyone will run 235 or 245 or 255 up front and the other differences will be less important on street tires.