Inside wheelspin
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gregg Lee
[B]Actually my first impression was that you've just gone through a bump or dip and the car has just landed from a sideways hop, but the surface looks smooth.
[B]Actually my first impression was that you've just gone through a bump or dip and the car has just landed from a sideways hop, but the surface looks smooth.
Now that I think about it, the explanation of this picture is simple! There isn't enough weight in the driver's seat. You should just add about 100lb of ballast right under the driver's seat, Andy.
My winter 'Andy's not going to weigh 100lb less than me next year' crash diet and exercise program is going well. I've already lost about 25lb from last year's Nationals. I don't know if I can get down to Andy's weight, but I'm not going to be giving up as much this year!
My winter 'Andy's not going to weigh 100lb less than me next year' crash diet and exercise program is going well. I've already lost about 25lb from last year's Nationals. I don't know if I can get down to Andy's weight, but I'm not going to be giving up as much this year!
Actually it looks like Jake is being crushed against the door by the cornering force. Maybe my perception is biased because I also took a ride with Andy on that course.
As for having so little tire on the ground and still hooking up...you saw where the greatest wear was on my tires: the inside edges. No wheelspin that I noticed, but maybe a little Torsen-limited scrubbin' going on.
Which turn/day was that anyway? I had been thinking that it was the first turnaround on Saturday since that's where it felt like the car was really hooking up, but the cones in the background indicate that I'm wrong.
As for having so little tire on the ground and still hooking up...you saw where the greatest wear was on my tires: the inside edges. No wheelspin that I noticed, but maybe a little Torsen-limited scrubbin' going on.
Which turn/day was that anyway? I had been thinking that it was the first turnaround on Saturday since that's where it felt like the car was really hooking up, but the cones in the background indicate that I'm wrong.
Well, speaking as the guy behind the lens...
It was Sunday, and it pretty near the start. You went thru a kink and then made a hard right followed by a very short straight connecting to a 90 degree hard left into the short slalom.
This was not a bump/undulation thing as far as I could see. My guess is that I was lucky enough to shoot right at the moment of peak lateral acceleration. The fronts are quite heavily loaded and as mentioned you could probably slide a piece of paper under both inside tires, but there was a very tight inside entry to a slalom after this so Andy may have just started rolling back onto the throttle. A picture just before or just after would probably have at least 3 wheels solidly on the ground
As someone who gets to watch him drive almost weekly, my reaction could best be described as:
WOW! Yawn. Shrug....

Peter
It was Sunday, and it pretty near the start. You went thru a kink and then made a hard right followed by a very short straight connecting to a 90 degree hard left into the short slalom.
This was not a bump/undulation thing as far as I could see. My guess is that I was lucky enough to shoot right at the moment of peak lateral acceleration. The fronts are quite heavily loaded and as mentioned you could probably slide a piece of paper under both inside tires, but there was a very tight inside entry to a slalom after this so Andy may have just started rolling back onto the throttle. A picture just before or just after would probably have at least 3 wheels solidly on the ground

As someone who gets to watch him drive almost weekly, my reaction could best be described as:
WOW! Yawn. Shrug....

Peter
My mistake, Peter, I was thinking that was another part of the course. Where you say it was makes more sense, as that certainly was not a steady state sweeper. Your picture just captured right at the moment of diving through that relatively tight corner. I say relatively since this was an AAS course where "tight" corners are a rarity. Avg speed on that course was around 55mph.
-Andy
-Andy
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