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Old May 3, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Thanks berny, I could use a softer RSB.
Did u go with the miata bar? Any comments about it?

I ditched mine for a gendron 1" 0.125 wall bar with bearing mounts. I was getting too much body roll and it has helped out and still offers more rear end stability putting the power down

I just need to figure out my mid corner push problem now... .
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Old May 3, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by berny2435
Originally Posted by robrob' timestamp='1322887217' post='21206627
Thanks berny, I could use a softer RSB.
Did u go with the miata bar? Any comments about it?

I ditched mine for a gendron 1" 0.125 wall bar with bearing mounts. I was getting too much body roll and it has helped out and still offers more rear end stability putting the power down

I just need to figure out my mid corner push problem now... .
I'm still trying to talk Meathead Racing (at Summit Point) into digging one out of their warehouse and quoting a price.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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i actually have stashed both NC and S2000 bars.

i will take a picture side by side.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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I am trying to adjust my KW V3 coil overs at the moment and I want to use these settings on my s2000:

Compression F&R: 1-2 sweeps (from full stiff)
Rebound Front: 3-5 clicks (from full stiff)
Rebound Rear: 5-7 clicks (from full stiff)

However I believe these are from the old version of the kw v3s. According to Rob Robinette's kw v3 tuning guide for compression two clicks equal a 1/4 turn sweep. So would 1-2 sweeps equal 8-16 clicks?
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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Rob's V3 has clicker on compression, each click is 1/4 turn. Rebound does not click, just turns, 3 1/4 total.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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Ok that makes a lot more sense. So 2 clicks isn't 1/4 turn sweep. So does anyone know an accurate conversion for the rebound on the new version? I got those settings from Billj747
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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What conversion you looking for? It does not exist or make sense to compare two different shocks. All adjusters work with thread, one turn will move needle away from (through) hole for whatever thread pitch is. How many clicks is in one turn makes no difference, it is function of flat sides on adjuster. Some have 4 like Rob's and some may have 8. Clicker on Rob's KW has piece of wire protruding in bore adjuster turns in. There is square portion of adjuster that jumps over that wire when you turn it and stops with flat side against wire. That is your click you hear. Some shocks have spring loaded ball that follows valleys on adjuster and clicks that way.
If you don't have same adjuster with same thread pitch and same needle taper it is pointless to compare it.
Usually adjusters have 3-3.5 turns from fully closed to fully open. 1.5 turn out from fully closed is about right for properly valved shock. Than you go from there.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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Ok I misunderstood and thought the new version was the same as the old version but with just a different adjustment mechanism that worked proportionately to the previous generation.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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If it is and you want to use his settings go by turns, not clicks. If you don't know how many clicks you have per turn just mark adjuster and count until it makes full turn.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ascoo
I am trying to adjust my KW V3 coil overs at the moment and I want to use these settings on my s2000:

Compression F&R: 1-2 sweeps (from full stiff)
Rebound Front: 3-5 clicks (from full stiff)
Rebound Rear: 5-7 clicks (from full stiff)

However I believe these are from the old version of the kw v3s. According to Rob Robinette's kw v3 tuning guide for compression two clicks equal a 1/4 turn sweep. So would 1-2 sweeps equal 8-16 clicks?
The newer S2000 KW V3 shocks have compression adjuster wheels with 2 clicks per 1/4 turn sweep. So each click is 1/8 turn. 1 sweep = 2 clicks, 2 sweeps = 4 clicks.

New style compression (bump) adjusters:



. . .go by turns, not clicks. If you don't know how many clicks you have per turn just mark adjuster and count until it makes full turn.
This is true for KW V3s, the number of turns out for both compression and rebound are supposed to be the same for all S2000 V3s no matter what style adjuster they have (ClubSports may be different).

Old V3s do not have clicks on the rebound adjuster. The new V3's clicks are 1/6 of a turn so giving your rebound adjustments in sixths will make the conversion for everyone easier. I'm currently running 4/6 turns out rebound in the front and 1 full turn (6/6) in the rear.
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