Moroso weld in baffle with trap door - anyone used it?
02-13-2019, 11:21 PM
#51
Hello,
I just logged in since this seems to be the #1 information source regarding F20C. Sorry to bring up a thread this old but the later threads of the subject were closed for some reason.
My question is if anyone could provide a source for Moroso 23040 baffle kit in Europe. I'd like to avoid the hassle and surprising costs of ordering stateside.
BR, Tomi
I just logged in since this seems to be the #1 information source regarding F20C. Sorry to bring up a thread this old but the later threads of the subject were closed for some reason.
My question is if anyone could provide a source for Moroso 23040 baffle kit in Europe. I'd like to avoid the hassle and surprising costs of ordering stateside.
BR, Tomi
02-15-2019, 03:52 PM
#52
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02-15-2019, 04:36 PM
#53
I have had this baffle in my car now for over 50 track days. Previously I had a canton pan.
Back to back datalogging between myself and others showed that both Canton and Moroso had no starvation with aero and sticky tires (we register 1.3-1.4G through some corners)
The key difference was with the moroso, retaining the OEM aluminum sump, the oil was 12-15 degrees cooler.
Also worth noting that these cars EVEN WITH THE MOROSO PAN do not need oil coolers. We see oil temps of 235-240 degrees on-track during competition with moroso & upgraded radiator, and 250-255 on track with a canton & upgraded radiator.
Since this finding nearly all drivers in S2K challenge run this baffle.
Back to back datalogging between myself and others showed that both Canton and Moroso had no starvation with aero and sticky tires (we register 1.3-1.4G through some corners)
The key difference was with the moroso, retaining the OEM aluminum sump, the oil was 12-15 degrees cooler.
Also worth noting that these cars EVEN WITH THE MOROSO PAN do not need oil coolers. We see oil temps of 235-240 degrees on-track during competition with moroso & upgraded radiator, and 250-255 on track with a canton & upgraded radiator.
Since this finding nearly all drivers in S2K challenge run this baffle.
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02-17-2019, 10:31 PM
#54
Thank you for the comments. I'm aware of the possible issues as I've read a dozen of related threads here. However based on those and visual impression it seems that Moroso is the best option available especially when taking the cost into count. From experience I know that anything welded to oilpan is prone to crack - or you could also say that anything welded or bolted to a racecar is about to fall off. Good to hear about the experience regarding oil temps. I'm a BMW guy but I give high credit to Honda engine technology and my project is to install F20C into my BMW 2002 racecar.
Moroso kits seem to be out of stock in many places but I was able to find a source in Netherlands, fullcartuning.com. They show one kit in stock, let's see if my order comes through.
Moroso kits seem to be out of stock in many places but I was able to find a source in Netherlands, fullcartuning.com. They show one kit in stock, let's see if my order comes through.
02-18-2019, 12:01 AM
#55
I can pretty easy get up to 250F in oil sump temp after a few hard laps, only NA mods and Koyo radiator.
02-18-2019, 01:37 PM
#58
How did they clean and prep the pan? A 15 year old aluminum casting that has been in a high temp environment with oil and contaminants has the potential for several issues that can lead to weld failure or cracks in the casting.
Aluminum Workshop: Cleaning aluminum before welding https://www.thefabricator.com/articl...before-welding
Best practices for welding aluminum https://www.thefabricator.com/articl...lding-aluminum
Aluminum Workshop: Cleaning aluminum before welding https://www.thefabricator.com/articl...before-welding
Best practices for welding aluminum https://www.thefabricator.com/articl...lding-aluminum
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