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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg
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Has anyone measured oil temp from the drain plug area then switched to the lower AC compressor mount hole?

I relocated mine, ditched the OE cooler and also shielded/insulated the sensor bung with tubing to try and insulate erroneous readings from air flow cooling the sensor body.

With all these changes my temps are reading 10-20°C (50-68°F) higher now. I highly doubt that's just from removing the OE cooler. I'm thinking it's a lot more accurate now since it's reading the temp closer to the centre of the oil pool. I'm willing to guess reading from the drain plug area, being closer to the pan housing, is slightly affected by thermal cooling.
That seems like a VERY significant jump just from moving the sensor from one spot in the pan to another. Are these higher temps you're talking about on the track? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if a large cause for the rise in temps is ditching the stock oil cooler. What temps exactly are you seeing? As far as I know it's the standard to read oil temp at the bottom of the pan (look at aftermarket pans and they all have spots for oil temp probes low in the pan). I'd be very surprised if the sensor experienced any/much cooling by ambient air around the pan.
I'd love to see some other examples of this. Very interesting.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by C63AMG
Max temp didn't change at the track.

It appears reading from the bottom of the pan without insulation around the sensor can give you false readings depending on the condition. I.E. lots of air flow driving on the hwy at a constant speed/rpm.
So, you're saying that the oil temp dropped that much under all situations except when hitting it's max, which was the same?

Maybe the max oil temp didn't rise after ditching the OE oil cooler because at max temp situations the oil cooler is overwhelmed, but does cool effectively at lower temps.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 05:22 AM
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davidc1,
After monitoring temps some more, there's clearly an oil temp drop under low load/cruising situations at 50+ mph. After a track day I think I'll have a better idea what's going on, but I'm thinking that under low load/cruising on the highway perhaps there isn't that much heat generated and the oil actually is cooled by the OEM pan. I haven't been watching temps carefully, but I think they are ~170 degrees fahrenheit when cruising on the highway. They climb to ~200F pretty quick when driving slow or in stop and go traffic.

The logic goes if you're seeing high temps on the track, then the temp sensor obviously works and isn't inaccurate, since you're often times at 60+mph. The difference is on the street that you're under a low load situation while cruising on the highway and perhaps the oil temp is in fact cooled. If ambient air around the pan threw off the reading of the oil temp sensor on the street, then it'd do so on the track as well..
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 06:13 AM
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Yup, I think the close proximity of the sensor to the pan wall and it being low enough for airflow affects the reading under light load with high airflow.

It is true the OE cooler does warm the oil when it's cooler out but this specific observation is unrelated to that.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by C63AMG
Yup, I think the close proximity of the sensor to the pan wall and it being low enough for airflow affects the reading under light load with high airflow.
I think you're leaving out one very important fact though.. Why doesn't the temp read low on the track as well? If it reads low on the street it'll read low on the track. You think the hot oil in DIRECT contact with the temp sensor somehow gets offset by ambient air passing by? I don't buy it. If I'm wrong I'll freely admit it, but this makes no sense.

It seems much more likely that the OEM pan and low load situation on the street w/ airflow results in cooler oil. The OEM pan has a lot of surface area with fins, which should act as a cooler of sorts.
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 09:13 AM
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130ºC at high RPM trumps the air cooling.

Otherwise it's magic
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Old Oct 9, 2015 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by C63AMG
Has anyone measured oil temp from the drain plug area then switched to the lower AC compressor mount hole?
Care to elaborate more on how exactly you 'switched' to a mount hole? Did you remove your AC compressor?
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