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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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I hate oversteer on the street.
Don't lift off the gas in corners.

Signed,
"I hate push"
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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First car was some 70s old Benz 200, with a 4 speed and no tach! Always been a RWD fan since.

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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezoris,Oct 18 2004, 06:47 PM
Understeer is fun...
Understeer may be safe, but not fun at all.

Oversteer is not as safe, but fun.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster,Oct 18 2004, 10:40 PM
Understeer may be safe, but not fun at all.

Oversteer is not as safe, but fun.
Are you talking about cars or women?
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezoris,Oct 18 2004, 08:47 PM
How many of the people who love sliding the ass around were brought up or drove RWD cars most of their life?
'64 Ford Falcon, 3-in the tree
'67 Ford Fairlane, automatic
'73 Gremlin X, 3-on the floor
'73 Mercury Capri, 4-on the floor
'71 Dodge Dart Demon
I owned all these before I ever drove FWD, and for most of the time I have owned FWD cars, I have driven these in the winter, in the snow.
'86 Nissan V6 4x4 pickup
'94 Chevy S-10 V6 4x4 pickup
'95 Nissan V6 4x4 pickup

I have 10 years of track experience in my CRX-SiR, and yes it is very easy to drive that thin at 10/10s, but nowdays, driving the S at maybe 7/10s is more fun...
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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"Understeer is fun because you can't generally lose the car, it just pushes everywhere."

Yeah, enter a corner a bit too fast and it pushes you right off the road into the trees, guardrail, etc. - that is FUN!!! Ask any pro - they much prefer oversteer - much more controllable, except for SNAP oversteer which early 911's were known for.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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After runnning my S2000 in an autoX, we sometimes get fun runs so I hop into my wifes WRX. Wow, what a difference, much more stability, neutral balance (its got some suspension mods including a nice big rear adjustible rear sway bar which is the single best mod you can get for this car beacuse it starts life as a plow pig). Understeer sucks, just grit your teeth as your tires scrub off speed while headed in a straight line out of the corner In the WRX, it feels like you have eons of time to make corrections (rear starting to go, go a little more, littel more, OK now I'll correct and tuck it back in) whereas in the S2000 you have usually one opportunity to save yourself. BUT, the reason I love the S2000 is that it is a true sports car, no bells and whistles and driven properly is tremendously fast on the autoX course. I started life with RWD:

Fiat 124 TC
a bunch of Spyders (fun little car) and X19s (live up the FIAT reputation_
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and than went to the dark side (FWD) with a

CRX Si (at least a great FWD car)
a couple of GSRs (another great FWD car)

and back to RWD with my S2000. All I can say is I will NEVER buy a FWD car again. Our WRX is a great car and I can see having a AWD car to suppliment my RWD car but the feel and handling characteristics of FWD just don't do it for me now. That said, if you are getting snap oversteer on the street, SLOW DOWN, you are driving too dam fast for the street (and don't lift off throttle and brake in a corner when speeding on the street).
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TubeDriver,Oct 20 2004, 07:25 AM
After runnning my S2000 in an autoX, we sometimes get fun runs so I hop into my wifes WRX. Wow, what a difference, much more stability, neutral balance (its got some suspension mods including a nice big rear adjustible rear sway bar which is the single best mod you can get for this car beacuse it starts life as a plow pig). Understeer sucks, just grit your teeth as your tires scrub off speed while headed in a straight line out of the corner In the WRX, it feels like you have eons of time to make corrections (rear starting to go, go a little more, littel more, OK now I'll correct and tuck it back in) whereas in the S2000 you have usually one opportunity to save yourself. BUT, the reason I love the S2000 is that it is a true sports car, no bells and whistles and driven properly is tremendously fast on the autoX course. I started life with RWD:
yup, the s2k requires you do be ahead of the car. As does any true sports car. The WRX certinely is eaiser to drive, the s2k is faster.

The s2k isn't hard to driive of course, but it is harder for the average joe that doesn't want to improve their driving skill.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueDrezzer,Oct 12 2004, 03:48 PM
That's the thing. Last year they weren't bad at all! Oh well, next season first thing I'll do is book myself in for a skidpad / drift training day.

///Robin
Yeah but your tires are older and more warn that makes a HUGE difference on the S02's
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