I think you guys are missing something here. The rate of speed changed the steady state handling of the car. A neutral car at 40mph will oversteer at 80 etc. The only way to make it work with both is aero modifications.

 

This is great discussion, thanks for all the input from ppl that are autox regulars. I'd like to see some opinions from ppl that both autox and track the same car with minimal changes. I realize that one setup will not be optimal for the other and vise versa... but if you arent gunning for a national championship, can it work?

What happens to the handling with the Saner bar set on full soft and on staggered street tires in oem sizes? Just out of curiousity since that's what im running and there's an autox coming up next weekend... it'll be my second time to autox, but first time with this car. Thanks!

 

Every car is different. Forum advice will only get you so far. The rest you will have to experience yourself.

 

Amen

 

+11eleventybillionooogle

 

Thanks for all the comments/suggestions/etc. guys. But it seems thus far to have been all about the Gendron.

Does anything have anything to say about the Saner? Pros, cons, suggestions, etc.? Any idea if they still have the clunking noise? Are the endlinks good quality? Is it worth the money if I decide I don't want to spend the money on the Gendron?

 

No changes, the endlinks for the Saner still clunk and it will be expensive to fix.

$100 in machine work and $80 in endlinks.

I have been there and done that. The Gendron offers more flexibility for different rates. You have several bar sizes to work with on top of the 6 adjustment holes.

 

I have had both brands. gendron bar is the better bar. better sevice and advice!

 

Remember, the Saner, Gendron, and ARE bars are not typical sway bars. They are designed to augment the stock suspension because of AutoX stock class restrictions. That's it. The right way to do it is buy the right springs and use minimal swaybar to fine tune the balance.

From my experience, the Gendron bar is a great option, better than the most, but not perfect. The ARE bar I have no zero XP with. The comptech bar also is not too shabby, if you can find one (not made anymore.)

My opinion= spend the money for a gendron hollow bar. You won't be dissapointed. If you are, turn around and sell it in 2 weeks for 20% less than what you paid for it and buy a lower cost bar. Or, just fork out the dough and time to buy the right springs for the car (which is what I would do before buying a massive swaybar for a track car)

Cheers and good luck.

 

Hm, a fellow S2000 friend suggested I switch to CR swings/shocks up front and that would solve the majority of the oversteer problem. Maybe I'll do that... and then use minimal swaybar to fine tune the balance, like you suggested...