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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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As some of you know, my car is campaigned in the East Coast Honda Challenge in the H1 class. It is also run in SCCA in the Super Production Under 2 liters class. When we started running the car last year for testing and setup, it was pretty obvious that the brakes weren't up to snuff. We tried every iteration of Carbotech and a few of the Hawk products. The Hawk blues worked at an acceptable level, but ate rotors like they were going out of style. We also found in testing that the rear rotors were generating a ton of heat - that could have been because the fronts weren't pulling their weight.

Our setup to start this year has been:

Powerslot rotors for the front
OEM discs for the rear
Stock calipers front and rear
Stoptech brake lines front and rear
Motul RBF600 fluid
3" ducting for the front and rear
Performance Friction temp strips to keep track of heat
Cobalt Friction Spec VR pads for the front
Cobalt Friction GT-Sport pads for the rear

Andie from Cobalt spent a tremendous amount of time with me on the phone and we have come up with this solution. All I can say is that this car stops now like it hit a brick wall. We are out-braking Hybrids everywhere on the track.

The reason I am posting this is because I hunted for a solution to less-than-ideal braking packages for the longest time and somebody outlining what worked for them could have saved me a ton of time and money.

Some will say that Power Slots aren't needed for the front. That may be true and I won't argue that. I just happened to get a deal on them and went with it. If you are considering going with a Cobalt Friction setup, you may want to consider a more aggressive/heat tolerant pad for the rear. We get away with GT-Sports because of the car's weight and the rear brake ducting.

Let me know if there are any questions or comments....

-Pete
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Congratulations!

You've just discovered what most of us have been doing (sans powerslots) out here since the Spec-VR/Spec-C pads became available for the S2000.

We've been recommending those pads for a long time now Well, the Spec-C rears instead of the GT-Sports but maybe the light weight does indeed let you get away with it. I guess you haven't been reading what we've been preaching in here or you would have been able to stop the car last year too
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludedude,Jul 16 2004, 01:57 PM
Congratulations!

You've just discovered what most of us have been doing (sans powerslots) out here since the Spec-VR/Spec-C pads became available for the S2000.

We've been recommending those pads for a long time now Well, the Spec-C rears instead of the GT-Sports but maybe the light weight does indeed let you get away with it. I guess you haven't been reading what we've been preaching in here or you would have been able to stop the car last year too
I don't recall reading that...but I don't doubt it was posted here. Sometimes keeping up with all of the posts is like drinking from a fire hose

I am just so thrilled now that we have a car that stops, I'll take the wraps on the head for not discovering how to do it sooner.

-Pete
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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I'm glad you finally found the solution tha works
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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Car looked great @ beaverun...Sounds incredible!

Luke
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by specialque,Jul 16 2004, 03:07 PM
Car looked great @ beaverun...Sounds incredible!

Luke
Thanks Luke. That was a great event you guys put on!! The car is even louder now - BeaveRun has a real low decibal limit, so we had to run a full exhaust....now it's much less full

-Pete
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