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View Poll Results: What front sway bar do you use?
Gendron 1.25" hollow
16.57%
Gendron 1.375" hollow
8.84%
Ankeny single blade
0.55%
Ankeny dual blade
7.73%
Comptech Adjustable V2
7.18%
Saner
19.34%
Other
13.26%
Eibach
20.44%
Standard Gendron
6.08%
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STR Prep - Sway Bars

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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 03:51 AM
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for anyone interested on the install procedure on the Karcepts bar here is my thread for it.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/110...#entry23346058
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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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Sway bar weights for the Karcepts, ARE, and Gendron bars: http://casertaracing.com/blog/karcep...t-comparisons/
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Old Nov 2, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IntegraR0064
Sway bar weights for the Karcepts, ARE, and Gendron bars: http://casertaracing.com/blog/karcep...t-comparisons/
Thanks! Was curious about this just last week!
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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Yes, thank you Jon for taking the time to post up that comparison!!

Also, earlier I stated I would try to do some math factoring the actual measured angular twist with center section rates to give a better sway bar center section comparison. Some B Street guys were complaining of too much push on the .25" wall, so this may be of use if desiring a softer center.

I have provided the comparison in more usable numbers, with units in lbs/in @ the shock (SR), and also lbs/in @ the wheel (WR):

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, Solid
Hole 1 SR=459 lbs/in, WR=196 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=507 lbs/in, WR=216 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=564 lbs/in, WR=241 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=632 lbs/in, WR=269 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=714 lbs/in, WR=304 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=822 lbs/in, WR=351 lbs/in

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, 0.250" Wall
Hole 1 SR=400 lbs/in, WR=171 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=442 lbs/in, WR=188 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=491 lbs/in, WR=209 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=550 lbs/in, WR=235 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=622 lbs/in, WR=265 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=715 lbs/in, WR=305 lbs/in

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, 0.188" Wall
Hole 1 SR=349 lbs/in, WR=149 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=385 lbs/in, WR=164 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=428 lbs/in, WR=183 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=480 lbs/in, WR=205 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=542 lbs/in, WR=231 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=624 lbs/in, WR=266 lbs/in

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, 0.120" Wall
Hole 1 SR=263 lbs/in, WR=112 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=291 lbs/in, WR=124 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=324 lbs/in, WR=138 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=362 lbs/in, WR=154 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=410 lbs/in, WR=175 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=471 lbs/in, WR=201 lbs/in
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 09:25 AM
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update the poll with the karcepts bar as one of the options =). Thank you John.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Karcepts
Yes, thank you Jon for taking the time to post up that comparison!!

Also, earlier I stated I would try to do some math factoring the actual measured angular twist with center section rates to give a better sway bar center section comparison. Some B Street guys were complaining of too much push on the .25" wall, so this may be of use if desiring a softer center.

I have provided the comparison in more usable numbers, with units in lbs/in @ the shock (SR), and also lbs/in @ the wheel (WR):

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, Solid
Hole 1 SR=459 lbs/in, WR=196 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=507 lbs/in, WR=216 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=564 lbs/in, WR=241 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=632 lbs/in, WR=269 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=714 lbs/in, WR=304 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=822 lbs/in, WR=351 lbs/in

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, 0.250" Wall
Hole 1 SR=400 lbs/in, WR=171 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=442 lbs/in, WR=188 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=491 lbs/in, WR=209 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=550 lbs/in, WR=235 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=622 lbs/in, WR=265 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=715 lbs/in, WR=305 lbs/in

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, 0.188" Wall
Hole 1 SR=349 lbs/in, WR=149 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=385 lbs/in, WR=164 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=428 lbs/in, WR=183 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=480 lbs/in, WR=205 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=542 lbs/in, WR=231 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=624 lbs/in, WR=266 lbs/in

Karcepts Front Sway Bar, 1.25" OD, 0.120" Wall
Hole 1 SR=263 lbs/in, WR=112 lbs/in
Hole 2 SR=291 lbs/in, WR=124 lbs/in
Hole 3 SR=324 lbs/in, WR=138 lbs/in
Hole 4 SR=362 lbs/in, WR=154 lbs/in
Hole 5 SR=410 lbs/in, WR=175 lbs/in
Hole 6 SR=471 lbs/in, WR=201 lbs/in
Do you have similar data for the Saner bar for comparison?

I'm looking for a bar with softer settings so I would like to know how it would compare.


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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 12:40 PM
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I'm really sorry robinson, but we're only going to provide this data for our own product. Honestly, I don't even have all that info right now and it would take me half a day to generate. Would rather be working on rear S2K sway bars instead...

If you are on a square street tire setup, start on the 0.250" wall. If on a staggered street tire setup, maybe best to start on the 0.188" wall. If running R comps, the choice would be between the 0.250" wall and the solid.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Karcepts
I'm really sorry robinson, but we're only going to provide this data for our own product. Honestly, I don't even have all that info right now and it would take me half a day to generate. Would rather be working on rear S2K sway bars instead...

If you are on a square street tire setup, start on the 0.250" wall. If on a staggered street tire setup, maybe best to start on the 0.188" wall. If running R comps, the choice would be between the 0.250" wall and the solid.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Welp, maybe it's time to fire up my copy of WinGeo again.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Karcepts
Would rather be working on rear S2K sway bars instead...
Before next season?
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