suspension on a budget..
You really don't understand because I never insisted on my current setup being the best or any good for that matter. I said I would like to get matched tires (Z1s) all around but first I have to sell my current tires. I also said I am getting a stiffer front sway bar and do an alignment with probably the UK specs.
I'm also running numbers on aftermarket springs to see the percent of increased stiffness in the front and back in order to keep the same balance that the stock rates provide, just like I was advice. Like I said, I would like a bit stiffer ride all around, and a slight drop in ride height.
I did ask for a reason why the tires in the front should be 205mm wide in the front and whether it is better to have a thick or thin sidewall on tires for performance driving.
Personally, I would think a wider front tire would be better (225) but I don't have as much experience as alot of guys here. I personally don't have enough experience to know first hand what would be better here. As for the sidewall thickness, I don't know, and would like to understand what is better and why.
I appreciate the advice I have received but I would also like to know why it is what it is. Like many, I like to know the answer to why or how something works and why something is better than something else.
Just because I ask for an explanation doesn't mean I don't agree or I brushed off/ignored the advice given.
I ran the numbers on the CR/early AP1 springs and it changes the balance significantly from stock so I'm not getting them anymore.
Do you understand now?
I'm also running numbers on aftermarket springs to see the percent of increased stiffness in the front and back in order to keep the same balance that the stock rates provide, just like I was advice. Like I said, I would like a bit stiffer ride all around, and a slight drop in ride height.
I did ask for a reason why the tires in the front should be 205mm wide in the front and whether it is better to have a thick or thin sidewall on tires for performance driving.
Personally, I would think a wider front tire would be better (225) but I don't have as much experience as alot of guys here. I personally don't have enough experience to know first hand what would be better here. As for the sidewall thickness, I don't know, and would like to understand what is better and why.
I appreciate the advice I have received but I would also like to know why it is what it is. Like many, I like to know the answer to why or how something works and why something is better than something else.
Just because I ask for an explanation doesn't mean I don't agree or I brushed off/ignored the advice given.
I ran the numbers on the CR/early AP1 springs and it changes the balance significantly from stock so I'm not getting them anymore.
Do you understand now?
Originally Posted by Tsuchiya,Oct 27 2008, 11:06 AM
You really don't understand because I never insisted on my current setup being the best or any good for that matter. I said I would like to get matched tires (Z1s) all around but first I have to sell my current tires. I also said I am getting a stiffer front sway bar and do an alignment with probably the UK specs.
I'm also running numbers on aftermarket springs to see the percent of increased stiffness in the front and back in order to keep the same balance that the stock rates provide, just like I was advice. Like I said, I would like a bit stiffer ride all around, and a slight drop in ride height.
I did ask for a reason why the tires in the front should be 205mm wide in the front and whether it is better to have a thick or thin sidewall on tires for performance driving.
Personally, I would think a wider front tire would be better (225) but I don't have as much experience as alot of guys here. I personally don't have enough experience to know first hand what would be better here. As for the sidewall thickness, I don't know, and would like to understand what is better and why.
I appreciate the advice I have received but I would also like to know why it is what it is. Like many, I like to know the answer to why or how something works and why something is better than something else.
Just because I ask for an explanation doesn't mean I don't agree or I brushed off/ignored the advice given.
I ran the numbers on the CR/early AP1 springs and it changes the balance significantly from stock so I'm not getting them anymore.
Do you understand now?
I'm also running numbers on aftermarket springs to see the percent of increased stiffness in the front and back in order to keep the same balance that the stock rates provide, just like I was advice. Like I said, I would like a bit stiffer ride all around, and a slight drop in ride height.
I did ask for a reason why the tires in the front should be 205mm wide in the front and whether it is better to have a thick or thin sidewall on tires for performance driving.
Personally, I would think a wider front tire would be better (225) but I don't have as much experience as alot of guys here. I personally don't have enough experience to know first hand what would be better here. As for the sidewall thickness, I don't know, and would like to understand what is better and why.
I appreciate the advice I have received but I would also like to know why it is what it is. Like many, I like to know the answer to why or how something works and why something is better than something else.
Just because I ask for an explanation doesn't mean I don't agree or I brushed off/ignored the advice given.
I ran the numbers on the CR/early AP1 springs and it changes the balance significantly from stock so I'm not getting them anymore.
Do you understand now?
Typically the S2000 oversteers, running a wider front tire and a skinnier rear tire (respectively) will probably not give you the most stable setup with stock suspension. If you run less of a stagger like 225/245 you'll probably want a large aftermarket front sway bar. Either way get yourself a good autocross alignment first, it's the cheapest and can make a big difference. Next get some good matched tires and lastly work on suspension (I'd try an aftermarket front bar first like a whiteline/cusco) and then shocks and springs.
Thanks CosmosMPower
For now, I'm going to do an alignment with a larger FSB.
After that, I'll get Z1's all around or get 2 correct OD 245mm RS2s for the rear since it would be cheaper to buy 2 tires.
For now, I'm going to do an alignment with a larger FSB.
After that, I'll get Z1's all around or get 2 correct OD 245mm RS2s for the rear since it would be cheaper to buy 2 tires.
Originally Posted by Tsuchiya,Oct 27 2008, 03:20 PM
Thanks CosmosMPower
For now, I'm going to do an alignment with a larger FSB.
After that, I'll get Z1's all around or get 2 correct OD 245mm RS2s for the rear since it would be cheaper to buy 2 tires.
For now, I'm going to do an alignment with a larger FSB.
After that, I'll get Z1's all around or get 2 correct OD 245mm RS2s for the rear since it would be cheaper to buy 2 tires.
Originally Posted by Tsuchiya,Oct 24 2008, 09:45 AM
I already have street pads and cross drilled rotors.
Pads & Tires. Don't waste money until you've got to grips with the car and you're consistent. I know it's tempting.
Originally Posted by BLkAP1,Oct 28 2008, 02:47 PM
I think most here would agree that cross drilled rotors wouldn't be considered an upgrade, especially for track driving. Best to stick with OEM or Brembo blanks...
Pads & Tires. Don't waste money until you've got to grips with the car and you're consistent. I know it's tempting.
Pads & Tires. Don't waste money until you've got to grips with the car and you're consistent. I know it's tempting.

IMHO, I actually think they are better than the stock non-slotted because I haven't experienced any fading whatsoever with them. That's not the case in my previous S, which was 100% stock.
It could just be the different pads
I really like how the slotted rotors look too. For me, it's a freebie.
my bad
Originally Posted by Tsuchiya,Oct 29 2008, 11:38 AM
I don't think slotted is as bad as cross drilled in terms of taking away braking area from the pads but I'd have to spend money to put anything else on em.
IMHO, I actually think they are better than the stock non-slotted because I haven't experienced any fading whatsoever with them.
IMHO, I actually think they are better than the stock non-slotted because I haven't experienced any fading whatsoever with them.
At that point, you should replace them with stock rotors. Not only will the solid surface last longer before cracking, but they will be cheaper to replace in the future.
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