Bolt-On to Bolt-On...
Originally Posted by Quik S2K,Nov 4 2007, 08:16 PM
Lol, nice kill, doesnt surprise me at all.
Also, in ALL these thread's it always turn's into put a turbo on the S and see what happens, sorry but its run what you brung, end of story!!
Also, in ALL these thread's it always turn's into put a turbo on the S and see what happens, sorry but its run what you brung, end of story!!
Personally, I'd love to run your STi before I sell my car just so I can say mimic this thread and post something along the lines of stock 4 cyl engine vs stock 4 cyl engine and bs about how much more power my engine can make over yours without having to reinforce it in any way.
Originally Posted by AirborneS2K,Nov 7 2007, 07:30 AM
That's why STi boi never runs a turbo'd S, because he knows he'd only have a loss to post up on here. He'll talk smack all day about an N/a S2K when he knows he'll walk them any day of the week, but when it comes to a turbo'd s2k he just kinda veers his head.
Personally, I'd love to run your STi before I sell my car just so I can say mimic this thread and post something along the lines of stock 4 cyl engine vs stock 4 cyl engine and bs about how much more power my engine can make over yours without having to reinforce it in any way.
Personally, I'd love to run your STi before I sell my car just so I can say mimic this thread and post something along the lines of stock 4 cyl engine vs stock 4 cyl engine and bs about how much more power my engine can make over yours without having to reinforce it in any way.
The point of this thread was to show that stock for stock, or basic-mod for basic-mod, the S2000 cannot run with an STi from a dig, or a roll, and only an idiot would think otherwise.
The second point of the thread was that ANYTHING can be made fast with enough money thrown at it, but mod-dollar vs mod-dollar, the STi will still always win the dig and the roll.
The S2000 is simply not a dig or roll-racing vehicle unless you throw an excessive amount of money at it. Learn that and stick to your game; handling.
I am not sure the STi is better mod-dollar for mod-dollar... See this quote:
The HP Performance kit for the S2k is available for $5200 + 750 for GT35R upgrade... With a head gasket and a tune, you should be in that power range NO PROBLEM. When you talk about replacing and upgrading the turbo's, headers, intercoolers, etc. you are looking at similar items for both vehicles.... (Upgrading an existing system vs. purchase entirely new system for car does not affect the price if they involve the same components). Prices should be roughly the same across vehicles... It is no longer $7500+ to successfully go FI on the S anymore. I guess the amount of time its been out plus the number of cars trading hands in the secondary market, it was inevitable... I will admit that it is easier to get power out of the STi in the lower dollar realms, but when you talk about $5000-7000, I think they just about even out...
Subie's are nice, though. I am looking into getting a new STi when the body style changes again... I hope they come out with the hatch...
Good run.
John
under $6000 (or a bit over if u want to upgrade ur clutch) u're looking at 410-430whp on pump
Subie's are nice, though. I am looking into getting a new STi when the body style changes again... I hope they come out with the hatch...
Good run.
John
Originally Posted by S2Kguy,Nov 7 2007, 10:18 AM
If you're talking about me, you're mistaken, or clueless...take your pick. I have run a turbocharged S2000, I won my game (the dig) by a mile, and he won his game by, well, not as much as I thought. Still, he won, if that makes you feel any better.
The point of this thread was to show that stock for stock, or basic-mod for basic-mod, the S2000 cannot run with an STi from a dig, or a roll, and only an idiot would think otherwise.
The second point of the thread was that ANYTHING can be made fast with enough money thrown at it, but mod-dollar vs mod-dollar, the STi will still always win the dig and the roll.
The S2000 is simply not a dig or roll-racing vehicle unless you throw an excessive amount of money at it. Learn that and stick to your game; handling.
The point of this thread was to show that stock for stock, or basic-mod for basic-mod, the S2000 cannot run with an STi from a dig, or a roll, and only an idiot would think otherwise.
The second point of the thread was that ANYTHING can be made fast with enough money thrown at it, but mod-dollar vs mod-dollar, the STi will still always win the dig and the roll.
The S2000 is simply not a dig or roll-racing vehicle unless you throw an excessive amount of money at it. Learn that and stick to your game; handling.
A race consists of a starting point and finishing point, whoever gets to the finish first wins. I could give less of a shit if you can tear off the line and pull out 1.6 60fts out of your ass every time, if I can cover that ground to the finish line, wherever that is, whether it be 1 mile, 1/2 mile, 1/4 mile, 1/8, then YOU LOSE. period. There is no 'game' that you win or he wins inside that race.
Yes, you point out the strengths of each of our cars, but in a race, you go from A to B and if you don't beat that car to point B, you lose, case closed. Yet here you are talking crap about the 'bolt on vs bolt on' dollar for dollar value of mods to an s2k vs STi in a straight line race...you want to get into cost vs speed? I bought my car for a hell of a lot less than you bought yours for, I'm pretty damn certain of that, and even if I went supercharged, I'm pretty sure I could still beat you in the 1/4 with a setup costing less than 8k.
Accept the fact that your STi needs a shit ton MORE money to hang with a turbo'd S2K and either stick to your grounds (stock evos, mazdaspeed 3s, CTR/ITRs, etc.) or get beaten and accept it without trying to make yourself feel better by trying to say everyone has a 'game' within a race.
Originally Posted by S2Kguy,Nov 7 2007, 01:13 AM
Right up to the point that they break, which is, fortunately, often.





