Yeah I guess thats true. Because they claim 4 seconds on the new GT2's. But iv seen it hit 3.5!

But then again. Pro drivers are always going to get a faster time then factory, not that much though.

 

ok i dont have a scanner and i now have 3 slips,
13.6,13.5,13.8 all over 100mph sooo if you cant drive,go and practice ,,ohhh and the 13.8 was yesterday at the drags with 88 degree heat ..
no seat
two bottles of 104 octane booster on a quarter tank of gas
20lbs of air
nice side exit single apex pipe
nitto 555r
good ass shiftin
7300 rpm ripp out the hole
13.8 101

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jerseys2k
[B]ok i dont have a scanner and i now have 3 slips,
13.6,13.5,13.8

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sev
[B]

I was mostly agreeing with you untill this statement, yes the s2000 is a car that is much slower on a launch then an idle start but 3 seconds!!!!!!!!

 

BTW, the aussie cars seem to be slower IMO, I know you did some gtech runs and take that as a basis for your points, you shouldn't though as your cars might be slower

Ausie S2000 are just as slow/fast as the US ones, UK or Europe ones. There seem to fall into the same 'bracket' of cars as anywhere else in the world. Look at the new WRX as a benchmark ... S2000 is not that much quicker in the 0-60mph and 1/4mile runs even according to your magazines.

There is nothing different between OZ ands US spec cars as far a sthe engine/exhaust goes .... though we're prone to having 'hotter' weather and hence don't have the optimal conditions for the S2000 as much as some of you guys.

I've seen the local magazines get anything from 'respectable' to 'slow' times for the S2000. The 0-100kph best time in a magazine is 6.2secsd and 13.9 for the 400m. Slowest time is 7.6 secs for 0-100kph and 15.5 for the 1/4mile. Though the majority of them fall in ther 6.4 - 6.8 range for the 0-100kph and around 14.6 for the 1/4 mile run. BoxsterS gets clocked anywhere between 5.8 - 6.8 for the 0-100kph and 13.8 - 14.8 for the 1/4mile. I even have a German article that tested an S2000 on 2 different occasions (4 months appart) and the difference in time is astonishing:
- 0-60kph = 2.8 vs 3.4
- 0-100kph = 5.8 vs 6.9
- 0-160kph = 14.4 vs 16.2
- 0-220kph = 36.4 vs 43.7

S2000's perfromance seems to be very temramental - even though it is possible to extract some incredibly fast times, it is just as common to extract some protty slow ones ... just look at the 0-220kph difference - that is done by the same drivers in an S2000 on 2 different occasions.


Locally it's not the car but the way they 'launch' the cars that makes the most difference ... I don't think many people here 'get' the fact that you need to launch the S2000 from 7000rpm - they do it on a track and usually with no more then 5000rpm ... strange concidering that they launch the new 911 from 6000rpm. btw, local magazine lined up the new 911 with the new NSX and the 911 totally annihilated the NSX. They clocked the 911 about 1sec quicker then the NSX over 0-100kph as well as 0.100kph.

I beleive you should throw it on a dyno and see if you are around 200 WHP as everybody here is.

Almost impossible to compare as every dyno has a different calibration. S2000's here dyno at about 125kW (167hp). Compare this to WRX STi that dynos as 135kW and 105kW for an older WRX. btw, the S2000 dynos here about the same as an RX7 (1997 model).

Anyway, my point of reference is based on what I see around me on the road ... not just the magazines/numbers. As I mentioned before I have dragged an auto '96 911 with my MR2 (172hp) and I don't rercall anything else annihitating me that bad. Granted the S2000 is a lot quicker then the MR2 but I have lined up the MR2 and S2000 before.

Also Sev, I don't dispute any of your numbers, but you cannot ignore the 'slow' S2000 numbers that are around either ... how do those come about?

 

Please... Read??? For HONDA S2000 stock!!!

MOTOR TREND S2000 test... 13.8 in 1/4mile
AUTO WEEK'S S2000 test... 13.7 in 1/4mile

You need a driver for your car???

 

BPlease... Read??? For HONDA S2000 stock!!!

MOTOR TREND S2000 test... 13.8 in 1/4mile
AUTO WEEK'S S2000 test... 13.7 in 1/4mile

Yes, I am fully aware of the 'best' figures. Though everyone seems to be forgetting all the 'slow' times that are around here as well as measured by the 'established' magazies'. Yes, I've seen high 13s for 1/4mile, but there's also low to mid 15s floating around. Look at my above example where German magazine "Autoreview" timed the S2000 on 2 separate occasions (Oct '99 and Jan '00) and came up with very discreplant numbers:
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- 0-60kph = 2.8 vs 3.4
- 0-100kph = 5.8 vs 6.9
- 0-160kph = 14.4 vs 16.2
- 0-220kph = 36.4 vs 43.7
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That is the same driver and loosing almost 2secs to 160kph and 7secs to 220kph!! That is a huge variation - that is not the driver that is the car. S2000 is very 'tempramental' when it comes to acceleration ... conditions really play havoc with it's acceleration. High 13s for 1/4mile is certainly not the norm - low to mid 14s seems to be the norm.

You need a driver for your car???

Why?

 

I've been following this post with some interest!

I'm probably one of the few people to have been in both a US and a Australian S2000. Last year in LA, 2 x 6 spd was kind enough to show me around. The one comment I had when I got back was that his vehicle was noticeably quicker than mine. Now I've had all sorts of explanations including that a car feels faster in a passenger seat but I'm not kidding. His car was noticeably quicker than mine.

Why is that? I really don't know.

One of my previous vehicles was a 993. Comparison between that an an S2000? There is no comparison. It's a different class of vehicle. The Porsche is so easy to launch in comparison to an S2000. A 996? Don't waste your time unless the Porsche driver has no idea and even then, he or she will still catch and pass you ultimately on a highway.

Btw, re the comparison between the new NSX and the 996 in one of our latest car magazines. That test was a waste of time just looking at the difference in power. Wait for the next generation NSX for a real comparison. If they wanted a real test for the 996 at this point, they should have tried it against the Nissan R34 N1. That would have given the 996 a real workout!

The N1 ran a 4.4 second 0 - 100 in 38 degree heat! Wonder how it would go if it was 10 degrees! Please don't ask me for conversions

 

I'm probably one of the few people to have been in both a US and a Australian S2000. Last year in LA, 2 x 6 spd was kind enough to show me around. The one comment I had when I got back was that his vehicle was noticeably quicker than mine. Now I've had all sorts of explanations including that a car feels faster in a passenger seat but I'm not kidding. His car was noticeably quicker than mine.

It was a shame that I didn't get a ride in a US-spec S2000 while I was there recently. Though, keep in mind that you live in Queensland and have 30'C (ie. 90'F) and humid conditions most of the time ... those kind of conditions really slow down an S2000. I would not be surprised if you though that the Melbourne S2000's as we haven't had much hot and humid weather (lately) ... as it is it's getting cold and the car is feeling even quicker.

The figures from Autoweek on two separate occasions show a huge discreptancy in the acceleration of the S2000 in the same country, 0-160kph (100mph) in 14.4 is pretty quick but in 16.2 it's not that quick ... 16.2 is 'slow' enough to be taken by a lot of cars on the road.

 

It was a shame that I didn't get a ride in a US-spec S2000 while I was there recently. Though, keep in mind that you live in Queensland and have 30'C (ie. 90'F) and humid conditions most of the time ... those kind of conditions really slow down an S2000. I would not be surprised if you though that the Melbourne S2000's as we haven't had much hot and humid weather (lately) ... as it is it's getting cold and the car is feeling even quicker.




True, although we do get mornings and evenings where the temperature drops quite significantly (4 degrees or so) and the car comes alive. Even then, my car still doesn't feel as quick as his