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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesdenyd,Dec 27 2006, 09:09 AM
Haha I can see a stock S2k pulling a stock WRX from a roll, but a celica GTS the WRX driver must have died during the race. Thats not going to happen unless the celi was highly modded. Stock s2k vs stock STI not even going to touch that one thats going to start a flame fest.
I'm not going to argue that a Celica is slower from a dig stock for stock, but trap speeds put the Celica at a 2mph advantage. My Celica wasn't stock, and it was used merely as an illustration that if S2k > Celica and Celica > WRX then S2k > WRX. I have only raced WRX's in my Celica, so it is my only personal example.

FWIW, I'm at 6000+ ft.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JanNov s2k,Dec 27 2006, 09:19 AM
^thank you

maybe at lower elevation you guys might be right but at 5500ft above elevation there dead even up here i have yet too see an s2000 beat a wrx from 0-60 times stock for stock
This is taken straight from that one 0-60 site.

2000 Honda S2000 5.5 14.2
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 5.7 14.4

These numbers are usually worthless since it seems no mag driver can get the most out of the S2000, but for the usually poorly driven S2000 to get a better 0-60 time than the AWD car shows something.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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well when me and my friend raced s2k vs wrx off the line there was no way i could beat him from 0-60 the awd launch was too much. if you launch a wrx at 6500rpm it will drop down to about 3300 rpm then pop the cluth at 4000rpm it helps out. now if we would've went off the line if he just launched it normally then maybe.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Spartikus,Dec 27 2006, 09:19 AM
I'm not going to argue that a Celica is slower from a dig stock for stock, but trap speeds put the Celica at a 2mph advantage. My Celica wasn't stock, and it was used merely as an illustration that if S2k > Celica and Celica > WRX then S2k > WRX. I have only raced WRX's in my Celica, so it is my only personal example.

FWIW, I'm at 6000+ ft.
Your GTS would not hanging from a roll or a dig stock moded from a roll maybe but I think u still get killed from a dig. I am not going to argue you wouldn't walk a stock WRX from a roll in a s2k. From a dig I am sure you will win but not by much. You won't beat him 0 -60 though.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Acesdenyd,Dec 27 2006, 10:05 AM
Your GTS would not hanging from a roll or a dig stock moded from a roll maybe but I think u still get killed from a dig. I am not going to argue you wouldn't walk a stock WRX from a roll in a s2k. From a dig I am sure you will win but not by much. You won't beat him 0 -60 though.
Much like the S2k, the Celica GTS is highly underestimated. With the same mods my Celica had + drag radials other people were running mid to high 13's @97+mph. I handily walked WRX's from a roll, but I never cared to launch the car since open diff + FWD just gets a lot of wheel spin. Stock GTS's put down ~165whp and weigh in at 2450lbs, so I don't see where the magical WRX will pull it from a roll especially with the trap speed differences.

You say an S2k won't beat a WRX by much from a dig, so show me proof. I see 13.8 from S2k's and 14.2 from WRX's, so when is half a second in the 1/4 "not that much?" That is WITH the insane AWD launch, so I can only imagine it would look like a good beating from any onlookers pov. Go pass a car going 10mph faster than they are and tell me if that appears to only be "slightly" faster.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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once again elevation plays a big roll obviously with those times those are at sea level. up at our track its not all that easy from what i can see 14.2 wrx driver must not know how to drive or launch. 13.8 is a damn good time for a good driver not your average s2k driver hits a 13.8 in 1/4mi time. im sure there have been stock wrx's that've hit 13.8 also. see what i mean? im just saying good drivers in both cars it should be a damn close race.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JanNov s2k,Dec 27 2006, 10:27 AM
im sure there have been stock wrx's that've hit 13.8 also. see what i mean? im just saying good drivers in both cars it should be a damn close race.
You think or you know they have hit those times? I'd really like to see.

I use sea level times because they are the only ones readily available. S2k's run 15's at my local track, and as you can guess nobody will want to go on a national forum and brag about that.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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im pretty sure if you go to the wrx forums im sure somebody has hit a 13.8

well ya i agree with the sea level thing. samething at our track there hitting low 15's
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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The 06+ WRX is basically a COBB Stage I 02-05 WRX, just with more torque. Puts down 200 WHP.

I don't care about drivers, the S2000 will take a WRX from a roll. Drivers don't even really matter that much from a roll as they would from a dig.

Like I said, as the race goes on, the more the S2k pulls away.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Spartikus,Dec 27 2006, 10:16 AM
Much like the S2k, the Celica GTS is highly underestimated. With the same mods my Celica had + drag radials other people were running mid to high 13's @97+mph. I handily walked WRX's from a roll, but I never cared to launch the car since open diff + FWD just gets a lot of wheel spin. Stock GTS's put down ~165whp and weigh in at 2450lbs, so I don't see where the magical WRX will pull it from a roll especially with the trap speed differences.

You say an S2k won't beat a WRX by much from a dig, so show me proof. I see 13.8 from S2k's and 14.2 from WRX's, so when is half a second in the 1/4 "not that much?" That is WITH the insane AWD launch, so I can only imagine it would look like a good beating from any onlookers pov. Go pass a car going 10mph faster than they are and tell me if that appears to only be "slightly" faster.
High to mid 13's with nitrous or FI? cause it sure wasn't with bolt ons. Lowest time reported on celi forums with a time slip was 14.3 at 95. Then find a stock rex. Neither S2k or rex is a drag machine and the celi is far from either.

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=136303

^ there u are 2006 are breaking into the 13's stock but it not the norm just like it not the norm for a 97 mph bolt-on celi or a 13.8 stock s2k I work with 3 guys on this site with S2k's even though 2 of them have now went with superchargers. So from a dig I am talking experience.
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