04 with 9k redline?
Originally Posted by Cyclon36,Sep 27 2004, 09:15 AM
4. So I can say I'm the only one with a 2.2 and 9k red.
Originally Posted by Incubus,Sep 26 2004, 12:26 PM
No disrespect, but...
Don't ask for sources or confirmation, but there is a flying Honda S2000 in North America; it is from the future.
I'm just saying that, without sources, no one knows what to think.
Don't ask for sources or confirmation, but there is a flying Honda S2000 in North America; it is from the future.
I'm just saying that, without sources, no one knows what to think.
BC
Very interesting BC.
I wonder what an 04 would make on the dyno with an 9k redline? The extra revs would certainly increase the 'area under the curve' and the extra time in Vtec would be nice. I personally think that the 2.2 could handle the extra little bump in revs without much trouble. Maybe long term reliability would be reduced a little but I don't plan on putting 100k miles on mine.
JeffA
I wonder what an 04 would make on the dyno with an 9k redline? The extra revs would certainly increase the 'area under the curve' and the extra time in Vtec would be nice. I personally think that the 2.2 could handle the extra little bump in revs without much trouble. Maybe long term reliability would be reduced a little but I don't plan on putting 100k miles on mine.
JeffA
Originally Posted by Av8ing1,Sep 27 2004, 01:24 PM
Very interesting BC.
I wonder what an 04 would make on the dyno with an 9k redline? The extra revs would certainly increase the 'area under the curve' and the extra time in Vtec would be nice. I personally think that the 2.2 could handle the extra little bump in revs without much trouble. Maybe long term reliability would be reduced a little but I don't plan on putting 100k miles on mine.
JeffA
I wonder what an 04 would make on the dyno with an 9k redline? The extra revs would certainly increase the 'area under the curve' and the extra time in Vtec would be nice. I personally think that the 2.2 could handle the extra little bump in revs without much trouble. Maybe long term reliability would be reduced a little but I don't plan on putting 100k miles on mine.
JeffA
You "think" it could handle it. Did you read anything else posted in this thread? 800 RPM might sound trivial to someone that knows nothing about engines, but trust me, it isn't.
I wish somebody could come up with some actual figures so we could do some calculations to see what it is we are really talking about.
What kind of numbers are you looking for? The numbers Honda published for the 2004 model in the S2000 brochure are: bore and stroke (mm) of 87.0 x 90.7, a compression ration of 11.1:1, 240hp @ 7800, 161 'lbs @ 6500, displacement = 2157cc. Gear ratios: 1st-3.133, 2nd-2.045, 3rd-1.481, 4th-1.161, 5th-0.942, 6th-0.763, Reverse-2.800, Final Drive-4.100, Secondary gear reduction-1.208. Hope this helps you with the numbers?
Some quick numbers on AVERAGE piston speed during an entire crank revolution:
F22C1: 89.2488 kph at 8200rpm
F20C: 89.712 kph at 8900rpm
Pretty dang close. An F22C1 at 8900rpm has about the same piston speeds as an F20C at 9600rpm.
I'll see if I can find or work out formuals for instantaneous max piston speed and acceleration.
F22C1: 89.2488 kph at 8200rpm
F20C: 89.712 kph at 8900rpm
Pretty dang close. An F22C1 at 8900rpm has about the same piston speeds as an F20C at 9600rpm.
I'll see if I can find or work out formuals for instantaneous max piston speed and acceleration.
Originally Posted by mxt_77,Sep 26 2004, 12:25 PM
Go look again. I'm pretty sure you won't find a clock anywhere on your 02 USDM gauge cluster. Plus, your tach should go all the way from left to right, not just 2/3 the way. And your coolant temp and fuel level gauges would not be curved. The coolant temp gauge would be a bar-shaped gauge on the left and your fuel gauge would be a bar-shaped gauge on the right.
And to the original post... if you just need an ECU and guage cluster swap to safely rev to 9K, then I think I'll swap this stuff into my Accord, so I can rev it to 9000 RPMs!
Just kidding... unfortunately, there's this crazy thing called physics that keeps us from being able to do that safely and reliably.
And to the original post... if you just need an ECU and guage cluster swap to safely rev to 9K, then I think I'll swap this stuff into my Accord, so I can rev it to 9000 RPMs!

Just kidding... unfortunately, there's this crazy thing called physics that keeps us from being able to do that safely and reliably.
I posted about 10 minutes after that, stating I had a brain fart that morning
Originally Posted by 44Runner,Sep 27 2004, 12:36 PM
That is a very ignorant statement.
You "think" it could handle it. Did you read anything else posted in this thread? 800 RPM might sound trivial to someone that knows nothing about engines, but trust me, it isn't.
I wish somebody could come up with some actual figures so we could do some calculations to see what it is we are really talking about.
You "think" it could handle it. Did you read anything else posted in this thread? 800 RPM might sound trivial to someone that knows nothing about engines, but trust me, it isn't.
I wish somebody could come up with some actual figures so we could do some calculations to see what it is we are really talking about.
JeffA




