If you ask me they're starting to get too heavy for their own good. CTR did beat RSX R in straight line, thats impressive, and it ran slightly faster than NSX around Suzuka, CTR would be the only civic I would consider, or a mugen RR mmm haha. Wondering if the entire suspension could be swapped. Then I would buy a civic!

 

A CTR would probably cost more than an s2000 and it looks retarded (fast or not).

 

plus the advantage of having only 2 seats

 

thnx, but ya whenever i see post about car vs car it almost always the majority agree its driver vs driver.

 

[QUOTE=ShocK,Nov 14 2007, 03:43 PM] If you ask me they're starting to get too heavy for their own good.

 

The S2000 is definitely faster stock for stock. It's like comparing an RSX-S to the S2000. If you mod the Si, the difference is closer and with enough mods, can beat a stock S2000. Under the old SAE Horsepower standards, it was rated at 200HP. The new SAE measurements rated it at 197. It was the same HP change for the S2000 as well.

 

The S is a drivers car! The civic is a fun people mover! The end!

 

yaa but u gotta say this car is pretty bad ass for a civic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XnqZlhce_fk&feature=related

 

absolutely! but thats alot of extras and $$$$$$$ put into that civic! did you see how flat that car was through the tights!!! who knows what other go fasts?? But yes badass!!

 

LOL, that's because the drivers vary more than cars. Back when my S2000 was bone stock I outran a 400 WHP Skyline R33 GTR, and if we had a video we could use that to "prove" lots of things, like "horsepower must have no meanaing at all" or "Skylines are pig slow," but that kind of "proof" is worthless. If Tripper and I swap cars and race the other way around, the Skyline will win, becaue he'd have more trouble extracting the S2000's performance than he does extracting the performance from his Skyline.

There has to be a HUGE difference between two cars for the driver not to be the deciding factor, at least some of the time (if not most of the time). Every time I go to a PCA autocross I dust off GT3's, so does that mean that the S2000 is quicker than a GT3?
Hahaha, I don't think so.

For what it cost to put a supercharger and gears in an S2000 I can start with nothing, buy a used Miata, and build a car that will dust off any stock S2000 easily, but all that really proves are that Miata's are cheap and have lots of effective performance parts availabe at low cost. With a Civic, I can do even more for the $$$ spent than with a Miata (but if I were building a drag car I'd be building an old school car with massive displacement and a big GMC blower ).

Horsepower and acceleration are cheap and easy. Superior handling presents a much greater challenge.