JHMAP114X1T000044 Delivered 11/00

 

Noted.
Thanks.
Barry.

 

Mine was at 7450 miles and, as far as I know, the first to have the short block exchanged. The failure happened in late October, if memory serves. I'll have to apologize for not having the exact data, but I am currently in London and don't have access to my service records.

I brought the car in after hearing a tapping noise. They told me a bearing went causing the failure.

I have around 11k on the car now, and it's running perfectly.

 

Here's the list with Zoinks first.
Updated for s2klisa's identifying herself. I'm sure that she's the person Jason Saini had mentioned earlier.

SUMMARY OF F20C piston/cylinder failure information.
updated 2/22/01 0540 pst

(1) Zoinks, VIN#7115 MY2000. Failed 10/00, odometer 7450. tapping sound led to short block replacement. "bearing failed" as diagnosis.
(2) s2klisa. VIN# JHMAP1147YT008953. Built 06/00 Delivered 09/00 Failed 11/00 two days before Thanksgiving. 3,200 miles at failure. Confirmed #4 cylinder failure. had tapping sound from very beginning. #4 cylinder wrist pin failed, Honda told Lisa.
(3) Jason Saini, VIN#? MY2001 Delivered? Failed 12/00 at 2,200 miles. confirmed #4 cylinder failure. had tapping sound.
(4) Barry Wohl, VIN#JHMAP11491T000052.MY2001. Delivered 11/4/00. Failed 1/4/01 650 miles at failure. never low on oil. confirmed #4 piston/cylinder failure. had tapping sound.
(5) AutoxEx, 2,800 miles at failure MY2001. Had tapping sound and then made a loud noise and then failed. Failed 2/01. Diagnosis vague but likely piston/cylinder failure.
(6) kizneda, MY2001.JHMAP114X1T000044 Delivered 11/00
Failed 2/01. 2,900 miles at failure. #4 cylinder not confirmed. made tapping sound like #4 cylinder failures did.
(7) Rowland in New Hampshire MY2000 #8275 6,651 miles at failure. Manufactured 6/00. Delivered .. Failed 2/01. confirmed #4 cylinder. was not low on oil. had tapping sound.
(8) Elund, VIN#? MY2001. Delivered? Failed 2/01. 2,000 miles at failure. getting new short block. NOT confirmed #4 cylinder failure. had tapping sound.
(9) s2kfatty, VIN#5714 MY2000. Delivered? Failed 12/00 7231 miles. has tapping sound but may be normal. diagnosis pending.

Barry in Wyoming '01 #52

[Edited by Barry WY Silver/Black '01 on 02-22-2001 at 05:41 AM]

 

Zoinks, I don't know if it is possible, but could you email or write your dealer (or I'll do it for you if you want), and see if they did find a piston/cylinder failure or a #4 cylinder scoring.

It sounds like the same noise as everyone else on the list except AutoxEx led to the same cure (new short block) as everyone else on the list except s2kfatty who hasn't had a cure yet. The "bearing failed" could be a different F20C problem, or it could be a bad description for the same #4 cylinder problem that at least four of us have had.

I think you should be on the list and first on the list as the earliest short block replacement.

THANKS for contributing.

Barry in Wyoming...

 

Yea! #1!

I'll call the service manager when folks in Texas start going to work.

 

That would be great!

I'd love you to stay FIRST and s2kfatty to stay LAST and the list would never get to double digits!

I had thought this was a MY2001 problem, but I can't justify that conclusion with you, Rowland, the gal Jason knows, and s2kfatty making four of the nine.

Barry in Wyoming...

 

Anyone know of anything we or American Honda can do to pro-actively check for this condition? My car has been in storage, but falls in the MY2000 range (Vin 7564), but I have not exhibited any of these symptoms...

 

There isn't much to do until the tapping sound develops, which is still VERY UNLIKELY.

To be "super-compulsive," you could pull the plugs and check for even combustion signs every 1,000 miles or so.

I doubt you could talk your dealer into doing that for you.

However, once the cause is understood, a fix should be a permanent fix.

Remember, this is VERY RARE, even if it is too common for comfort.


Barry

 

At least one S2000 engine replacement was performed by Crown Honda of St. Petersburg, Florida in the Fall of 2000. I assume the owner does not belong to a bulletin board, and I don't know any other details of that repair.