i never do any trans adjustments mid turn. that's just asking for it.

 

Thanks for not thinking I was being a condescending a-hole.

There ARE people here who need to master some of the basics before trying to shift while turning or breaking, so I don't think it was a waste. Anybody who thinks asking questions about basic stuff makes one the village idiot is simply mistaken; The village idiots crash first and ask questions later. A wise man learns from those who have gone before. Obviously you are a wise man, and I almost said so in the previous post(s). Now I wish I had.

"let's try again. IF YOU ARE APPROACHING A SHARP RIGHT TURN AT 40 MPH, WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU DO TO GET AROUND THE CORNER?"

OK, I'm in town, cruising along at 40 MPH, and I'm approaching a side street where I want to turn (to the right). In truth, under such circumstances, I'm apt to do any number of things (the number of things might actually be infinite). If there is traffic and I'm just motoring along, I might do a rev-matched shift down to third before I ever got to my braking point, or I might wait until I got to the braking point before dropping into third. Either way, I'd rev match so the shift didn't upset the cars balance. Starting at the braking point I'd brake gently, and as the speed dropped to a point below where third was comfortable, I'd shift into second; I might rev match and let out the clutch, or hold it in, or I might even release the clutch slowly with no rev match and modulate the brakes during the release to maintain a constant rate of deceleration. In general I'd be in second before the apex, and be accelerating SLIGHTLY.

Driving hard would be another matter, but there are still an array of options. If I'm only going 40 MPH I must be coming off a slow corner already, and what I actually do depends on a host of things, including the previous and following corners or straights.

On the street I want to be in the proper gear and accelerating at the point of maximum turn-in (most of the time). IF I wanted to come off the corner like a madman with the tires spinning (and risk the possible consequences) I'd do a double clutch shift into first and a rev matched clutch release, followed by a squeeze on the throttle that continued until the desired amount of slide was reached, then I'd hold a steady throttle until the tires got grip again. In my opinion doing this kind of thing on the street is asking for trouble, but if you want to look for it this technique will help you find it.

Hopefully it was the first answer you were looking for. I have to apologize for my inability to understand the question(s), but maybe I'm the village idiot. What you are asking *seems* very basic to me, but that may well be because I learned to drive with cars that had no synchros in first (not much in second either), and I take all this stuff for granted.

 

We still need to go for that drive, huh?

What I do when I'm approaching a corner in 4th gear is: Downshift to 3rd (rev match, no brakes), let the engine wind down a bit, then Heel-toe into 2nd as I approach the turn. I keep my foot on the brake as I begin to turn the wheel, then transition over to the gas.

Gimme a call late on a weeknight. Actually, are you going to the Grove? If not, what time are you done with class? PM me or email me.

 

LOL, I think I just used three posts and a bunch of suggested exercises to suggest pretty much the same thing. Apparently that's not what we're being asked, but I'm not really sure.

 

PERFECT!

 

oh, please note i am an amateur driver, never took a class, been to a couple track events couple autox's and thats it so my word isn't stone, but since you are asking what I do. oh, i am also not capable of trail braking either.

as someone mentioned you could do a number of things, but since some people covered the 4th to 3rd to 2nd thing, assuming 4th gear, travelling @ 40mph and i am gunna make a right turn somewhat hot:

1. as i approach the turn about 200 feet cluth in/neutral/clutch out (car will begin to slow)

2. blip throttle to get rpms up around between 6-7k (car might slow down a little in this time, depends how long it take you to do)

3. clutch in/2nd gear/clutch out

4. at this point the car should be travelling around 35ish so turn with a little gas, but keep your gaurd up and be ready for a little rear slippage.

i guess i have not reviewed the skipping gears thread yet. i suck at driving don't listen to me.

 

thnx mx5. it's so hard for people to give straight answers these days without adding some condescension.

 

This is a great method and I fully endorse this. Well, as long as you are not trying to get around that corner like a bat out of hell.

 

DUDE.

Come over to my place and I'll teach you before you drop your tranny at Laguna Seca and a diffy at it too.

BC

 

If you sensed any of it in any of my posts please know that it was not intended.