I'll be "stress testing" my diff next Monday. If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

 

[QUOTE=Bboy AJ,Jan 5 2006, 04:00 PM] This is a great method and I fully endorse this.

 

so uh yeah, i figured i would try it last night and pay attention to all the speeds and shifts and whatever else. dude, 40 in 4th is actually very slow. in my ap2 stock gearing is like 3100rpm, so i just double clutched to 2nd at about 6000rpm and went on turning normally.

 

Just to let everyone know, I found the comprehensive instructions from Xviper, RedMX5 and the others very useful. I've never learned proper shifting technique and have been trying to pick it up here and there without knowing if I have it right. Having technique laid out step-by-step really helps.

 

wrong.

1. brake and clutch in at the same time, or brake first, then a split second later clutch in depending on the situation.
2. match rev and put in third.
3. clutch out. (note that at this point your right toe should still be on the brake pedal)
4. clutch in and match rev again.
5. put in second.
6. clutch out and get ready to turn the wheel
7. gas

Clutch in.
Shift to third.
Shift to second.Heel toe to the proper speed to get into second.
Clutch out.
Turn the wheel to take the turn.

 

heeltoe into second


I see no harm being done to the synchros as long as the revs are matched properly when you are skip shifting

 

Wow, great info. I've been driving stick for about 6 years now, but am self taught. I've always, reagardless of my speed coming up to a turn:

Press brake & clutch
shift to second and make turn
let clutch out and accelerate out (after apex)

I never knew skipping like that is bad. In the long posts, I'd say I can start and stop smoothly, but proabably could use a little work on everything else. So, here's my "newb" questions:

1) What's the best place to learn good stick skills? Since after reading these posts I feel like I know nothing, I think a driving school would be my best investment (I'm in North Texas).
2) Can someone define rev matching, and how to tell when its done right? How does it feel & sound when done wrong?
3) Exactly what is heel/toe shifting?

Thanks for the help, this is exactly the kind of information I signed up for.

 

[QUOTE=DJFriar,Feb 2 2006, 07:48 PM]Wow, great info. I've been driving stick for about 6 years now, but am self taught. I've always, reagardless of my speed coming up to a turn:

Press brake & clutch
shift to second and make turn
let clutch out and accelerate out (after apex)

I never knew skipping like that is bad. In the long posts, I'd say I can start and stop smoothly, but proabably could use a little work on everything else.

 

Unless you double clutch, a rev match does little to slow or accelerate the gears in the gearbox. Without a double clutch the synchros do all the work, and they do more work when you skip gears.

I personally doubt that skipping gears does any harm to modern synchros, but sans a double clutch is will most certainly produce more synchro wear. The rev match just makes life easy for the clutch and keeps the car balanced.

 

i go
5-4-3-2
double clutching and heel and toe.......once u get use to it, its not hard...and it doesnt take that long......practice going 5-4-3-2..........