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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13,Oct 11 2010, 05:11 PM
btw...i think i saw it mentioned somewhere about camber eating tires...you are W R O N G!!! camber does VERY little to eat tires...what eats tires is IMPROPER TOE ANGLE!!! you can run 0 deg of camber and still have your tires wear like crazy if your toe is off...camber angle will wear tires normally and safely...you are creating a parallel contact patch with camber...with toe you create an opposing contact patch
Normally I would agree with you, but when you get to hellaflush levels of "fitment" the outside of the tire is often not touching the ground. Therefore you ARE going to get uneven wear and have to replace tires more frequently.

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Are  aggressive offsets the "new rice"...-vfbhp.jpg

But yeah, like you said, a reasonable amount of negative camber isn't going to kill your tires. Toe is almost always the culprit.

Also, whp = wheel horsepower. The S2K makes about 240 HP at the crank, or about 200 whp (due to drivetrain loss). 250 whp NA is very unlikely without serious mods.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DanZilla,Oct 12 2010, 12:01 AM
250 rwhp? what mods do you have? you rarely ever hear those numbers.
I have a 75 wet shot of nitrous, intake, test pipe, and exhaust. I was being conservative with the 250 figure since I haven't dyno'd it.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloodred,Oct 12 2010, 12:38 AM

But yeah, like you said, a reasonable amount of negative camber isn't going to kill your tires. Toe is almost always the culprit.

Also, whp = wheel horsepower. The S2K makes about 240 HP at the crank, or about 200 whp (due to drivetrain loss). 250 whp NA is very unlikely without serious mods.
Wear is uneven but not accelerated.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:38 AM
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There's a lot of posts talking about "as long as you're happy with it" or "I did it for my own preference" etc. That's fine, but it's still rice. You think the people with altezza's and neons and autozone bodykits aren't happy with their cars or didn't put together their cars for their own preference?

There's a lot of definitions of rice. Some define it as mods that are tacky - making it a matter of opinion. And imo, hellaflush is rice (tacky).

Another definition is modifications that are non-functional and just for show/looks. Considering hellaflush on an S2000 almost always makes it slower, by this other definition (not opinion), it's still rice (if you subscribe to that definition).
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloodred,Oct 12 2010, 01:38 AM
Exhibit A:
Man - thats what I aiming for with my S.

The PERFECT daily driver! 1 racing seat, wheels that stick out 4" past the body and zero ground clearance. This is the epitome of comfort and practicality.

I would love to see some pics of the owners of these cars...
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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That S2000 is such a failure lol.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RonnieB,Oct 9 2010, 02:10 PM
I just don't understand why you want to do this to the S. It just looks so bad, and reminds me of all the wanna be low riders around. I seriously can't wait for this look to die like the altezzas.
along with the hellafail/flush business, I've been waiting for the "time attack" wheel look to die too... that look was overdone two weeks after it started.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Guess this is one of those that if someone has to explain it to you....you just don't get it.

I don't get it.

I cringe when I see this done to S2000's. I'm not going to knock anyone for doing it, but I sure wouldn't.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rnye,Oct 12 2010, 10:26 AM
I would love to see some pics of the owners of these cars...
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rnye,Oct 12 2010, 07:26 AM
I would love to see some pics of the owners of these cars...
alrighty...not a problem...heres me and my last S13 around december of 2008 i believe...




oh and heres a picture of my cat because hes just THAT awesome...

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