Air box off....GASP/GRIN
JsnS2K: Import Development (that's our company, also a site sponsor) makes it, it's a similar piece to Spoon Sports' CF intake. Please go to www.importdevelopment.net for more info. As for water ingestion, you'll have to be driving in VERY deep water to ingest water, and speaking of which, NOBODY should be driving the S in deep water, this car is NOT an amphibious assault vehicle.
xjohnx: that's the whole reason for me not to go with any other types of intakes. install is easy, and you can remove the intake duct in less than one minute if you're going to a dealership or if you're worried about warranty problems.
Lee355: yes, Injen/AEM both make the tube type cold air intake that has proven power gains. However, there are issues that I don't wish to discuss in the public (it can get controversial) with those intakes, and some people may view those issues as unimportant, some may view it as very important, depending on your perspective.
xjohnx: that's the whole reason for me not to go with any other types of intakes. install is easy, and you can remove the intake duct in less than one minute if you're going to a dealership or if you're worried about warranty problems.
Lee355: yes, Injen/AEM both make the tube type cold air intake that has proven power gains. However, there are issues that I don't wish to discuss in the public (it can get controversial) with those intakes, and some people may view those issues as unimportant, some may view it as very important, depending on your perspective.
Originally posted by mingster
yes, Injen/AEM both make the tube type cold air intake that has proven power gains. However, there are issues that I don't wish to discuss in the public (it can get controversial) with those intakes, and some people may view those issues as unimportant, some may view it as very important, depending on your perspective.
yes, Injen/AEM both make the tube type cold air intake that has proven power gains. However, there are issues that I don't wish to discuss in the public (it can get controversial) with those intakes, and some people may view those issues as unimportant, some may view it as very important, depending on your perspective.
And for those that have experience with both, which sounds throatier?
Mingster, was there a problem with your original airbox? Mine, too, sits behind the radiator, but the *intake* on my stock airbox is just behind the top of the radiator, situated right behind an indentation that lets air flow from the front of the car, *around* the radiator and directly into the intake. To me that would result in little temperature increase. Your product looks like it might help things when not moving (such as at the start of a launch after sitting for a while) due to the fact that hot air would accumulate all around the radiator. But when moving, the ram effect should keep the air in front of the radiator more or less at outside air temperature. I don't see how the stock configuration would be harmed by its configuration, at least at speed. Plus, with the stock configuration, the "top" of the channel that the air flows into the airbox through is the hood of the car, and after a bit of driving that should be at outside air temperature (since it has so much air flowing over it). Having, effectively, a heat sink as the top part of the stock air intake system should definitely help things, which might explain why few after-market air intake systems have yielded significant improvements so far (not including yours in this grouping because I don't know the results of your system).
I've personally experienced the result of this ram effect on radiator temperature before. My previous civic had a radiator fluid temperature sensor failure at 37k miles (just after starting the extended warranty period), and when sitting the coolant fluid temperature kept rising. Once at speed the temperature fell. The sensor controlled the fan in the radiator, thus with its failure the fan was not operating (meaning only ram-effect could alter the temperature of the air in front of the radiator). The design of the stock S2000 air intake should, IMO, have the same behavior with its design.
I guess I don't see the problem with the stock configuration, except when launching after sitting for a while.
I've personally experienced the result of this ram effect on radiator temperature before. My previous civic had a radiator fluid temperature sensor failure at 37k miles (just after starting the extended warranty period), and when sitting the coolant fluid temperature kept rising. Once at speed the temperature fell. The sensor controlled the fan in the radiator, thus with its failure the fan was not operating (meaning only ram-effect could alter the temperature of the air in front of the radiator). The design of the stock S2000 air intake should, IMO, have the same behavior with its design.
I guess I don't see the problem with the stock configuration, except when launching after sitting for a while.
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