Dude... for real I am sorry to hear you were almost killed and all. I am glad to hear you are ok. But for real... this is an open forum for people to share their opinions. You are going to get it, I do too sometimes.

If we are wrong, well then we all owe you an apology. If we are right then you owe all us an apology. But only you will ever know the truth for sure.

I think maybe it is just time to say this thread has run it's course and drop it.


Once again i hope it all works out the way it should. You can buy another S but you can't buy another you.

 

Sooooo, what was the liquid dripping into the cabin? Ever figure that out?

 

hmmm ecsta supra aren't max performance summer tires are they??? I believe the MX's are....anyways i'd expect the supra's to be better in the wet then many summer tires on the S2000.

 

Well, I am not going to take sides or argue. But, I will say, insurance is protection. Car insurance is to give you money in case you get in an accident and you can not afford to pay the cost out of pocket. But, the way I see it, if the accident is your fault or some water's fault or whatever. If it is a single car accident and you have a ticket, if you get a lawyer, you are sewing your own insurance company. I have never been in an accident where my vehicle was totalled, but I can tell you that some insurance companies can be a real pain to deal with.

If you end up taking this to court, you will have to prove the accident was not your fault or your causing, for you to win the case. If this is a jury trial you may have a chance, but if it is a judge trial I am not so sure. With the cop haven written you a ticket, you likely feel like you are guilty until proven inocent.

 

I leave the comments about the insurance to other people, but as for fighting the ticket, you wouldn't happen to have the code section of the "basic rule" that you were written the ticket under would you (it should be on your ticket). Also, what state was this in?

The officer will have to prove that you violated the law beyond a reasonable doubt. As somebody already said, the burden will be on him. Evidence of an accident may be enough to raise the presumption that it was caused by your poor driving, but on its own, the presumption isn't enough to convict you. In other words, the presumption is rebuttable, and I honestly believe that if you went into court and told them exactly what happened, a judge may throw it out. It's definitely worth fighting, that's for sure. If you were going at the speedlimit, and just happened to hit a patch of water and hydroplaned, then that's probably not enough to warrant a conviction on the ticket. Like you said, there were no witnesses at all... so it's going to be your word vs. the officer's reconstruction of what he THINKS happened. You have better than a 50/50 chance in my opinion. And this is coming from a lawyer who has dealt with traffic offenses on NUMEROUS occasions.

 

I had those tires once upon a time. I noted that they got VERY hard from heat cycles much faster than the stock S-02s. I actually threw mine away at half tread because traction simply dropped off to zero.

I do wish there was some way to get the word out to all 00-03 owners: The stock S-02s though listed as 225 width are actually closer to a 245. When buying another brand, the owner MUST compensate in order to preserve the correct front to rear tread width ratio. I'm curious if you were aware of this or did you buy your car like that with those tires already on it?

 

Why are we on page 3 on this subject?

Another inexperienced driver crashed his S2000. What more needs to be said here?

 

Because we'd like people to learn from others mistakes:

Cheap A$$ = bald tires = Accident in rain = sucky = rental ford POS = mental anguish = loss of money and jacked up insurance premiums.

Uneducated = rear tires too narrow = less grip in back = more chance of rotating and oversteer = crash when driving too fast for conditions.

Would have cost less to buy a beater Civic and drive that in the rain.
Would have cost less to buy new tires before they're bald.

Doesn't cost anything to learn on the Tire and Wheel forum what size to use in the rear.

Doesn't cost anything to slow down in the rain when driving on inappropriately sized tires that are balding.

But I didn't see any of these epiphanies come from the OP.
Even if you accept that it's your fault... nothing changes unless you figure out what you could have done to prevent it.

 

This is the third Rain+Crash thread this week. I hate to see it happen again and again, especially when it's usually tire related.

 

= LOFT



Cars do not do anything you don't tell them to do. The car told you what it was going to do but in your case and any other driver who crashes in rain conditions it ='s LOFT.

Now man up and go to work. People crash everyday get over yourself. How sheltered have you lived that this is trauma. Try crashing a sportbike at speed that's a little bit of trauma. Dude you were safely ensconced in a cage with airbags.