"Bieg's Law"
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Originally posted by Strike
I'm sure Greg is too involved with all of the tasks related to running a club the size of S2KCA to have time for a thread like this.
I'm sure Greg is too involved with all of the tasks related to running a club the size of S2KCA to have time for a thread like this.
One thing you gotta say about Bieg's threads - They certainly bring in forum traffic.
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From: Savannah
Hey Bieg,
Sorry if my first post sounded inflamatory. I wasn't trying to attack you and I appologize if it sounded that way. Here is how I look at the situation. You, Bieg, are like the Surgeon General. You shy away newbies with little statements that smoking/ drinking alcoholic beverages /modding cars can hurt the individual (or their wallet
). I really don't mind them at all but the people that are practicing the said activities are set in their ways and statements such as these do nothing but infuriate them. I do not drink Alcoholic beverages and do not smoke cigarettes because I know that they are unhealthy yet I'm not going around bars telling patrons that they are killing their livers and I'm not snatching cigarettes out from people's mouths. I practice tolerance and I honestly believe that that is what you need. I know there are millions of people smoking weed right now and I don't like it but there is nothing that I can do about it and complaining about them is going to get me nowhere but a hospital, suffering from stress-induced migraines. You know that there is a whole culture that is based on fixing up cars and yet you go onto an import forum and post statements that go against that beliefs of many to try to "convert" them. You need to realize that you are not going to change them, they are not going to change you and trying to is just going to get you flamed. That's like if I came onto this forum and posted a thread that went, "F@ck the Chr*stians, They are so weak that they need a 2000 year old book to tell them how to be good people and yet there all hypocrites." See, that would get me nowhere but onto a hitman's list. Tolerance tells me to accept everyone, even the ignorant (I'm not calling you ignorant) and the christian 
(lol, sorry, I just got in a good discussion about religion, I really haven't calmed down yet.
Sorry for the long post,
Phi
Sorry if my first post sounded inflamatory. I wasn't trying to attack you and I appologize if it sounded that way. Here is how I look at the situation. You, Bieg, are like the Surgeon General. You shy away newbies with little statements that smoking/ drinking alcoholic beverages /modding cars can hurt the individual (or their wallet
). I really don't mind them at all but the people that are practicing the said activities are set in their ways and statements such as these do nothing but infuriate them. I do not drink Alcoholic beverages and do not smoke cigarettes because I know that they are unhealthy yet I'm not going around bars telling patrons that they are killing their livers and I'm not snatching cigarettes out from people's mouths. I practice tolerance and I honestly believe that that is what you need. I know there are millions of people smoking weed right now and I don't like it but there is nothing that I can do about it and complaining about them is going to get me nowhere but a hospital, suffering from stress-induced migraines. You know that there is a whole culture that is based on fixing up cars and yet you go onto an import forum and post statements that go against that beliefs of many to try to "convert" them. You need to realize that you are not going to change them, they are not going to change you and trying to is just going to get you flamed. That's like if I came onto this forum and posted a thread that went, "F@ck the Chr*stians, They are so weak that they need a 2000 year old book to tell them how to be good people and yet there all hypocrites." See, that would get me nowhere but onto a hitman's list. Tolerance tells me to accept everyone, even the ignorant (I'm not calling you ignorant) and the christian (lol, sorry, I just got in a good discussion about religion, I really haven't calmed down yet.Sorry for the long post,
Phi
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From: Savannah
Bieg,
Just because Krazi-K is a moderator doesn't mean he is not a human and can't post his feelings. He has been very professional and I'm surprised that he hasn't closed this thread down even after you questioned his integrity. He has not "moderated" in the thread and he has allowed you to show your true feelings, however defiant they are to many here. From his point of view, it is the thread-starters fault if all shit breaks loose when the thread's topic is inflammatory. And please don't blame the thread contributors as the culprit to this mess. You are also to blame and until you can see that, there will always be some form of bashing on both sides.
Phi
P.S. I know that I'm contributing to this arguement, but I felt the need to voice my opinion. Now please shake hands, everybody.
Just because Krazi-K is a moderator doesn't mean he is not a human and can't post his feelings. He has been very professional and I'm surprised that he hasn't closed this thread down even after you questioned his integrity. He has not "moderated" in the thread and he has allowed you to show your true feelings, however defiant they are to many here. From his point of view, it is the thread-starters fault if all shit breaks loose when the thread's topic is inflammatory. And please don't blame the thread contributors as the culprit to this mess. You are also to blame and until you can see that, there will always be some form of bashing on both sides.
Phi
P.S. I know that I'm contributing to this arguement, but I felt the need to voice my opinion. Now please shake hands, everybody.
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From: Columbia, MD
Originally posted by turbo_pwr I have no problems with him stirring the pot and bringing up what I feel is a valid point that some people just don't consider.
If a useful argument for these continual stirrings can be made, I'll gladly bow out of the discussion, but in that two years I have seen none, barring the FIRST stirring of the pot. If he feels someone is in need of his point of view in a particular thread, then let him post a link to one of the multiple threads that he's created in the past for them to read.
What part of "We understand you, but respectfully disagree with you" doesn't he get? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it's nothing but an attention getter at this point, and I've fallen into the trap by reading and posting to this thread. I guess it doesn't take a rocket scientist to also figure out I post because it makes me feel better putting in my opinion on the matter and continuing to stir the pot.
It's threads like this one that make me wish we only had two forums on s2ki..."Marketplace" and "Under the Hood"
