Have you driven or even sat in one? It's not exactly a car that exudes emotions. The target market is completely different than the S. The GXP is quick and pretty, but to me it feels like nothing more than a RWD Cobalt with its roof cut off.

So yeah, from a car salesman perspective it's direct competition based on price and specs. To an enthusiast like myself it's not in the same ballpark. And that's why I said that it's not intended to be like an S2000 - dangerously neutral handling, razor sharp steering and an exhilarating engine are not part of its equation. Anyone that goes from the S2K to a Solstice/Sky likely never enjoyed the traits that make the S2K what it is.

 

So? Just because the piston speed matches an F1s cars doesn't mean it's F1 tech. Does it have traction control, which was legal in F1 around the time the S2000 came out? LBs of down force? Why does it have a clutch? Where is the V-10 or V-8?

Chevy might not have the glamour of racing in Formula 1, but the race teams works closely with the road division from what I've heard. Things actually cross over and the road car is the basis for the race car, like 911s or 430/458s. This is going back to your other post. They actually race, and back their teams, that use the road engine. Overhead cams aren't knew, like someone else pointed out earlier. You really sound like you don't know what you're talking about.

In Chevy's case, their is some engineering to it. Honda...it's all marketing. And when they were getting their as-es handed to them, they quit.

S2000s are great cars. I just bought one. But to think a Z06 is a "decent" car and Chevy just pieced it together is ignorant. It's a great engine with lots of technology. They built it because they wanted to. Just like Honda wants to use Vtech or a 9k engine.

 

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You're right, but that statement alone makes me not respect you or any opinion you will ever form in your life. I didn't know we were 15 year old's in the ghetto, or white trash.

 

Z06 and ZR1 engines are also hand-built

 

I am not a native speaker. Does "you don't know me" have another meaning or something? Not that I am searching for your respect, I am just curious.

I just wrote it simply because Hetzen wrote his wild assumptions: "You blindly follow it, and won't accept that there are better cars out there." He is clueless as to who I am and what I think. That was it.

 

What is the big deal here?? Put the brand loyalty aside, both are great cars with a huge following of fans. The S2000 suits me personally more than the C6 does, but I do like the C6 quite a bit.

If I had the chance to even trade my S for a C6 tomorrow, I'd keep the S. Not because of any shortcomings on the part of the C6, but just because the S works for me.

I don't get why some feel the need to bash one or the other. Anyone who would call themselves an "enthusiast" could see that both cars have a lot to offer.

 

FRM? The H22A had that, it's not as spectacular as you think.

The 25.2 m/s is NOT the peak piston speed of an F1 engine. F1 engines rev to 15000+ RPM. And it's not speed that matters most in engine design - it's piston acceleration (F=Ma). Also, there are literally hundreds of motorcycles that rev higher than the S2000.

For example, the Z06 uses titanium connecting rods with a fatigue strength of approx. 550MPa. The S2000 uses carburized steel with a fatigue strength around 300MPa. The only other current production cars with Ti conrods are the Veyron, Porsche GT3 and the Lexus LF-A. Ducati bikes also use Ti conrods.

 

Search Wikipedia for "mean piston speed". Max piston speeds of S2000 and F1 cars are almost equivalent despite the difference in max RPM because of the drastic stroke difference. Max piston speed is the main reason why AP2 engines cannot rev as high as AP1 engines, because of their increased stroke.

High revving sport bike engines, as well as F1 engines, have very short strokes as well. Those engines work great for bikes, but are hardly suitable for regular cars for various reasons: high and rough idle, peaky power delivery, low torque, bad efficiency, etc.

While not in production, NSX uses titanium connecting rods as well. If S2000 needed them, Honda could put them there (despite the price increase). Honda has the technology and know how at their disposal. They use it if they see fit. After all, engineering is design under constraint.

 

Oh, please...

 

Are you a troll or srs?

Prove me wrong. It's hard to beat technology transfer when the race team is using the road car to build on. I don't recall any parts being transfered from F1 to the S2000.