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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by EastS2k
I am in disbelief of 90% of the sk2i owners, all of you drive the S yet you talk shit about it and suckle on vettes gonads. Sounds like you bought the wrong car for the wrong purpose then, if you want a vette so damn bad why not just go trade your s in for an older vette?

Another major point missed by all of you s2k bashing vette lovers; let me see s2k was introduced in 1999, means it was on paper much earlier then that... c6 vette was closer to 05-06.

I am done here, going to go drive the car that I bought because I enjoy driving it and not talking shit about it.
I like to believe that we're all car enthusiasts here on S2ki. This is why I starting coming to this forum long before I owned a S2000. S2ki was a place I could come to and read mature discussions about S2000's and other cars including its competition. I bought a S2000 because it was affordable, it was a blast to drive, and I've always wanted a car that could rev up to 9,000 RPM. However, that does not mean I wouldn't upgrade to a C6 given the opportunity. The LSx is one of the better engines built out there. There's a reason why it's a popular swap for many people. It's relatively lightweight for a V8, it's powerful with plenty of torque, and it is also a fun motor to drive around with.

I was also a fan of the C6 interior. It was driver orientated and focused around the driver, it was relatively comfortable, the RPM projection on the windshield was a nice touch, and I liked the center console. However, I am only a fan of the newer C6's, I would not settle for a C5 or anything older. Plus, anyone doubting GM's ability to build a true sports car has probably forgot that this company built the ZR1; a car that was able to lap the Nurburgring in a lower time than the original GT-R.

I enjoy driving my car too, but your arguments seem shallow and closed minded; your opinion could be biased because you own a S2000 and the C6's price is out of your range. I can understand how you love driving your S2000, but why not go try out a C6 given the chance. It might change your opinion.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSteel
Really? You think chevy couldn't throw some money at people to build that engine?
Sure. Given enough money and time, you can build anything. But I don't believe that any American car company can build an S2000 at the same price point as Honda. They just don't have the current available technology, and development costs would be too high. That's exactly why you have the LS series engine in the Corvette. It delivers in power and torque at a good price point.


ChrisHS2000, thanks for an informative post.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EastS2k
I am in disbelief of 90% of the sk2i owners, all of you drive the S yet you talk shit about it and suckle on vettes gonads. Sounds like you bought the wrong car for the wrong purpose then, if you want a vette so damn bad why not just go trade your s in for an older vette?

Another major point missed by all of you s2k bashing vette lovers; let me see s2k was introduced in 1999, means it was on paper much earlier then that... c6 vette was closer to 05-06.

I am done here, going to go drive the car that I bought because I enjoy driving it and not talking shit about it.
we're all car enthusiasts well let me say most of us... you can be a honda fanboy or a s2000 fanboy all you want but the c6 vettes are nicer than s2000s lol.... don't get me wrong i love my s2000s and i've owned 3 of them and i'll probably always own one... my next one will probably be an 06 leguna blue and i'll keep that one, but that doesn't mean i can't admit to a car being better than ours.

personally if it was 2006 and i had to choose between the s2000 and the vette i would have bought the s2000, but thats just me. i've liked these cars since the day they came out and i've always wanted one.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hicabi
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Really? You think chevy couldn't throw some money at people to build that engine?
Sure. Given enough money and time, you can build anything. But I don't believe that any American car company can build an S2000 at the same price point as Honda. They just don't have the current available technology, and development costs would be too high. That's exactly why you have the LS series engine in the Corvette. It delivers in power and torque at a good price point.


ChrisHS2000, thanks for an informative post.
They tried to do that with the Solstice and have had marginal success with that car, lower price point, more power, same weight, but I wouldn't drive it.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hicabi
S2000 is built by a company who owns F1 technology. They could've easily produced a much nicer car at a much higher price point. They did not opt for aluminum construction. But they decided to give S2000 a screaming engine with higher power per displacement than anything else (until the 2010 Ferrari). They did decide what the S2000 should have or not.

On the other hand, C6 seems like it is produced by a company with whatever they can put together. Don't get me wrong, it is a decent car. They had access to a small block V8, and it worked pretty well, and they went with it. Does it work well in the C6? Yes. Is it the best option for a sports car? No. If Chevy had the technology to build a modern (think double overhead cams), reliable, high revving engine, would they still go with the LS? Of course not. Corvette looks like a good honest try in reaching to build a high performance sports car.

Honda did not have to reach for anything. They had it. They just had to make the right decisions to create an affordable yet competitive sports car, and they did. F20 is a showcase of high technology, not a recycled engine from decades ago. 0-60 times can be had cheap. Refinement, know-how, and technology cannot.

That's why I consider C6 not an upgrade, not at the same level, but a clear downgrade from the S2000.
F1 Technology? Holy s--t. I didn't think people actually fell for that marketing strategy. Short of Ferrari or McLaren, F1 technology isn't going to be transfered to road cars.

You're the type of person that made me not want to buy an S2000. You blindly follow it, and won't accept that there are better cars out there. You're the definition of a fanboy, and give all S2000 drivers a bad name.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by EastS2k
I am in disbelief of 90% of the sk2i owners, all of you drive the S yet you talk shit about it and suckle on vettes gonads. Sounds like you bought the wrong car for the wrong purpose then, if you want a vette so damn bad why not just go trade your s in for an older vette?

Another major point missed by all of you s2k bashing vette lovers; let me see s2k was introduced in 1999, means it was on paper much earlier then that... c6 vette was closer to 05-06.

I am done here, going to go drive the car that I bought because I enjoy driving it and not talking shit about it.
Because not everyone is a myopic fanboy like you clearly are.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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WOW so many fanbois!... I bought the S2000 because I wanted a great autox car that I could daily drive, was RWD and had a great sports car feel to it, that I could maintain myself. Oh, and my budget was $12k. Which pretty much got me to either a Miata (can't fit in one comfy enough to DD), C4 vette (needed more MPG's and wanted something a little newer), or an S2000... S2000 was the best choice and I don't regret it for a minute. Now there are definitely cars I would much rather have but could not afford, could not maintain myself, or could not DD. I thoroughly enjoy my S but am realistic that there are better cars out there. Just because we like and bought a car, does not mean we think its the best car out there, some of us just buy the best thing they can afford and enjoy it.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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This thread is going nowhere....IBTL!

The reality of owning an S2000, as someone said above, with 30k in performance mods that make it able to compete, or own, a C6 is ridiculous.....As said above, a civic with XXX amount of money can smoke several cars on the road...but comparing a stock car to a freak of nature car is completely asinine. Just accept that there are better and worse cars out there but all of that shifts on your preferences....period....you want specifically great handling and go-kart feel, great....you want great handling and great power, great...The C6 is a phenominal car and as far as some of your comparisons go about spending XXX amount of money on XXX car to make it compete with a C6, just remember that when the C7 comes out the C6s will all be better priced in the used/pre-owned market.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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This is a funny topic. I own a C6 Z06 and I am looking to buy an S2000 in the near future as a daily driver. Is the Z06 a bad daily driver? Not at all, much better then an S2000 in my opinion. The C6 Z06 I personally own is very quiet inside, doesn't rattle, rides very comfortably, and gets 30+ mpg at a sustained 70mph cruise speed in 6th. gear. Not to mention that the car is very big and roomy inside in comparison to the Honda. I don't know where all these people find and drive Corvettes that are rattling and falling apart. Mine doesn't make a squeak or rattle and I drive the car very hard in Malibu all the time.

Now you may ask, if this guys thinks his Vette is so great why is he looking to get into an S2000? Simple. The S2000 is another great car in my book that I would like to own. And though it has short coming to the Z06 in many areas. It is a older platform and a much cheaper one in price. And its not like the S2000 is a gas guzzler by any means. I myself am a car enthusiast and have owned 25 different cars since I started driving. I have owned from Rotary Mazda's to Fire Breathing Big Block Mopars and everything in between. A true enthusiast loves all cars and understands that no one car is perfect in every which way. One car may be good in some areas while another may be good in others.

As for the push-rod argument.. The LS Engines are 2nd. Gen. Small Block designs. Very high tech and very reliable while being responsive to mods to boot. Its an irrelevant argument. And GM has quite a few DOHC designs in their armament, but the still use the fire breathing LS push-rod Engines in their top sports cars. These LS engines simply work. And they are not heavy by any means, my LS-7 is all aluminum including most accessories and the Intake Manifold is composite. They are also very powerful for their small external dimensions.

And if you think the LS Engines are used because they are "Cheap" and GM is just trying to cut costs in building a sports car.. A complete LS-7 from GM is just under 20k dollars. That doesn't seem all that cheap to me.

So much misinformation in some of the previous posts.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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A C6 is a good car in it's own right. What some people don't seem to realize is each person has their own subjective views and opinions. Some people want a lot of torque, and straight line speed(C6), others care about a raw, good handling, high revving sports care(s2000). Who cares what somebody else likes or wants?
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