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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Someone please move this to Car Talk or kill it entirely. Going no where fast.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Yeah, its this way in every forum I go on. I have a few Vette Buddy's and when I brought up to them that I will be getting an S2000 in the near future they wouldn't stop talking bad about it. Pure ignorance in my opinion. Kind of like a few years back when there was the Why the S2000 is superior to the Evo post on these forums. I had an Evo IX at the time and it was just a big dick swinging contest from both camps. lol Both were and remain great cars in their own way.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by calhounhusker
A C6 is a good car in it's own right. What some people don't seem to realize is each person has their own subjective views and opinions. Some people want a lot of torque, and straight line speed(C6), others care about a raw, good handling, high revving sports care(s2000). Who cares what somebody else likes or wants?
C6 handles great as well, .95g on a 300ft skidpad
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by calhounhusker
A C6 is a good car in it's own right. What some people don't seem to realize is each person has their own subjective views and opinions. Some people want a lot of torque, and straight line speed(C6), others care about a raw, good handling, high revving sports care(s2000). Who cares what somebody else likes or wants?
Raw and good handling are what the Vette is. Read reviews about it. The car is very, very fast around corners. And doesn't it rev to 7k? 1k less than an AP2. I think the Z06 is just a bigger S2000.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hetzen
Originally Posted by calhounhusker' timestamp='1303758967' post='20505539
A C6 is a good car in it's own right. What some people don't seem to realize is each person has their own subjective views and opinions. Some people want a lot of torque, and straight line speed(C6), others care about a raw, good handling, high revving sports care(s2000). Who cares what somebody else likes or wants?
Raw and good handling are what the Vette is. Read reviews about it. The car is very, very fast around corners. And doesn't it rev to 7k? 1k less than an AP2. I think the Z06 is just a bigger S2000.

I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything bad about the C6. I have driven them, and I like them, I just can't afford them. The two cars are in completely different classes IMO. The Vette is more about pure power and torque, is it a decent handler? Sure it is but because of the power it is much easier to reach that limit and go over. Does this matter upon the driver and experience? Sure it does. At this point, I prefer the s2000, I like the size and how connected to the pavement you are. The Vette has more "creature comforts" and features, it's a pricier car and IMO... a bit more refined(Interior,ride comfort, etc) than the S.

Then again, this is all my opinion, and anyone can feel free to disagree if that appeals to them.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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ive always wondered the same thing

besides the fact that theyre both sports cars, their approach to it is so diametrically opposed that i figured s2k dont appeal to corvette owners and vice-versa--small footprint, small motor, "tight" car vs large brute

while i think the c6 is a neat car, id never see myself in one, and not the least simply because of the attention that comes with being in a "Corvette"
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EastS2k
I am in disbelief of 90% of the sk2i owners, all of you drive the S yet you talk shit about it and suckle on vettes gonads. Sounds like you bought the wrong car for the wrong purpose then, if you want a vette so damn bad why not just go trade your s in for an older vette?

Another major point missed by all of you s2k bashing vette lovers; let me see s2k was introduced in 1999, means it was on paper much earlier then that... c6 vette was closer to 05-06.

I am done here, going to go drive the car that I bought because I enjoy driving it and not talking shit about it.
So saying the Corvette is a good car is talking shit about the S2000? You are clearly a fanboy and not a car enthusiast. I didn't buy the S2000 because of the H badge on the front, I bought it because of the car that it is. And there are about 500 other cars I'd also like to own. Does that make me an S2000 hater? Ridiculous.

P.S.: My little family car Accord with a couple minor mods can kick the crap out of my S2000 in a straight line. Does that make your eyes well up with tears? The S2000 was not found on a mountain by Moses with an instruction manual written by the big guy, stop acting like it was.

Originally Posted by RedCelica
Originally Posted by hicabi' timestamp='1303701978' post='20503300
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Really? You think chevy couldn't throw some money at people to build that engine?
Sure. Given enough money and time, you can build anything. But I don't believe that any American car company can build an S2000 at the same price point as Honda. They just don't have the current available technology, and development costs would be too high. That's exactly why you have the LS series engine in the Corvette. It delivers in power and torque at a good price point.


ChrisHS2000, thanks for an informative post.
They tried to do that with the Solstice and have had marginal success with that car, lower price point, more power, same weight, but I wouldn't drive it.
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The Solstice is not at all intended to be like an S2000. It's a boulevard cruiser and parts bin GM to keep costs down. The S2000 and Corvette are both special and fantastic vehicles in their own way.

Originally Posted by The Jake
This is a funny topic. I own a C6 Z06 and I am looking to buy an S2000 in the near future as a daily driver. Is the Z06 a bad daily driver? Not at all, much better then an S2000 in my opinion. The C6 Z06 I personally own is very quiet inside, doesn't rattle, rides very comfortably, and gets 30+ mpg at a sustained 70mph cruise speed in 6th. gear. Not to mention that the car is very big and roomy inside in comparison to the Honda. I don't know where all these people find and drive Corvettes that are rattling and falling apart. Mine doesn't make a squeak or rattle and I drive the car very hard in Malibu all the time.

Now you may ask, if this guys thinks his Vette is so great why is he looking to get into an S2000? Simple. The S2000 is another great car in my book that I would like to own. And though it has short coming to the Z06 in many areas. It is a older platform and a much cheaper one in price. And its not like the S2000 is a gas guzzler by any means. I myself am a car enthusiast and have owned 25 different cars since I started driving. I have owned from Rotary Mazda's to Fire Breathing Big Block Mopars and everything in between. A true enthusiast loves all cars and understands that no one car is perfect in every which way. One car may be good in some areas while another may be good in others.

As for the push-rod argument.. The LS Engines are 2nd. Gen. Small Block designs. Very high tech and very reliable while being responsive to mods to boot. Its an irrelevant argument. And GM has quite a few DOHC designs in their armament, but the still use the fire breathing LS push-rod Engines in their top sports cars. These LS engines simply work. And they are not heavy by any means, my LS-7 is all aluminum including most accessories and the Intake Manifold is composite. They are also very powerful for their small external dimensions.

And if you think the LS Engines are used because they are "Cheap" and GM is just trying to cut costs in building a sports car.. A complete LS-7 from GM is just under 20k dollars. That doesn't seem all that cheap to me.

So much misinformation in some of the previous posts.
Truth. They are both great cars in very different ways. Any C6 owner who hates on an S2K is a moron or just not a car enthusiast, and an S2K owner who hates on a C6 is a moron or just not a car enthusiast. Plain and simple.

I'm jealous of your car, I wish I could afford to own a C6 Z06 but the insurance and the speeding tickets would kill me! I don't think I could control myself in that beast.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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C6 ZR1 is as close as it can get to a real exotic car. Great engine, handling, and TON of power.....which equals FUN
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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There not even the same class of car the vette compared to the s2000 feels like a pig - that's partially because of it's seating position that's blind spot central and partially because of it's physical dimensions also it's ground clearance is in no way comparable to an s2000 that can actually be quite fun on a back stretch of road with mixed surfaces. The vette however is more power, quieter and get's way better mileage and pulls like a train and on a prepared wide enough surface like a race track is pretty fast.

Personally i think the latest GTO was more of a sports car, but the Corvette is what it is and for the money does better at it than anything else - the Z06 with a little bit of work just dominates on track and sounds sweet doing so.

The interior on the vette is garbage and should never be uttered in the same sentence as even the most base model civic.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke Togo
Personally i think the latest GTO was more of a sports car, but the Corvette is what it is and for the money does better at it than anything else - the Z06 with a little bit of work just dominates on track and sounds sweet doing so.
Have you even driven either car? the GTO is heavier, worse handling, and more pig like in its feel than the Vette by marathons! The GTO was nothing but another pony car. On the other hand, I have seen mostly stock (running in stock class) Vettes do some amazing things on an autox course and you don't get much tighter than that! The C5 Z06 for example competes very well with the elise on an autox course, and destroys S2000's. That said, having driven both I think the S2000 is more fun on an Autox course (elise trumps all though).

THis said, a twisty back road (which is much more open than an autox course) would be an absolute blast in a vette. The only reason I would never own a vette is because I prefer the light nimble feel and would buy an elise first, but to call the vette a pig, or say its not fun on windy pavement, or doesnt handle superbly, just makes no sense to me.
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