The Case For Keeping It Stock
Originally posted by sfphinkterMC
yeah, keep it stock........don't fix the pretensioner recall, or any other TSB. GET A CLUE!
yeah, keep it stock........don't fix the pretensioner recall, or any other TSB. GET A CLUE!
At least you picked the right name for yourself.
Originally posted by AusS2000
Nice spin Bieg. But all it really does is support my argument. Unless of course you are on some noble quest to save the ignorant S2000 owners from the evil aftermarket.
Nice spin Bieg. But all it really does is support my argument. Unless of course you are on some noble quest to save the ignorant S2000 owners from the evil aftermarket.
That's it, Bieg's new nickname is Don Quixote
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Seriously, there are many great reasons not to mod the S2000. The major ones would be:
Decreased resale price.
Chance of diminishing performance or unbalancing car.
But like anything, these reasons have to be weighted by how important they are to you. Perhaps you don't care about resale value (wish I could afford not to), and are either careful enough to only buy performance improvement mods (they are few and far between) or aren't real concerned about cutting edge performance.
And then there's the other side of the argument. Reasons to mod are:
Individuality
Creativity
Tinkering (my personal favourite)
Coolness
Performance gains
Once again you have to decide how important these are to you.
Personally I like tinkering. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than finding (or creating) a problem, then solving it. So I personally understand that one. When my condenser got damaged I had a great time removing it, getting it welded and reinstalling it. Very satisfying and saved me about $1000.
I also have very cool looking aftermarket wheels. They are heavier than the stock wheels so technically (measurably??) decrease performance. But I like them because of several of the other reasons above.
I guess what I'm getting at is that all the evidence given, both for and against modding, seems to be correct. The decision on whether or not you mod your S is not based on the validity of these arguments, but by how much these arguments are important to you.
.Seriously, there are many great reasons not to mod the S2000. The major ones would be:
Decreased resale price.
Chance of diminishing performance or unbalancing car.
But like anything, these reasons have to be weighted by how important they are to you. Perhaps you don't care about resale value (wish I could afford not to), and are either careful enough to only buy performance improvement mods (they are few and far between) or aren't real concerned about cutting edge performance.
And then there's the other side of the argument. Reasons to mod are:
Individuality
Creativity
Tinkering (my personal favourite)
Coolness
Performance gains
Once again you have to decide how important these are to you.
Personally I like tinkering. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than finding (or creating) a problem, then solving it. So I personally understand that one. When my condenser got damaged I had a great time removing it, getting it welded and reinstalling it. Very satisfying and saved me about $1000.
I also have very cool looking aftermarket wheels. They are heavier than the stock wheels so technically (measurably??) decrease performance. But I like them because of several of the other reasons above.
I guess what I'm getting at is that all the evidence given, both for and against modding, seems to be correct. The decision on whether or not you mod your S is not based on the validity of these arguments, but by how much these arguments are important to you.
Im one to keep my S2k 100% stock......reason being is I plan to keep this car for a VERY long time as a collector car.
100% stock?? Hmmm...
Well except for the stereo...the S2k Stereo is worse than whats put in Civics...
Im gonna have a 100% stock S2k with one hell of a stereo
100% stock?? Hmmm...
Well except for the stereo...the S2k Stereo is worse than whats put in Civics...
Im gonna have a 100% stock S2k with one hell of a stereo
Originally posted by AusS2000
That's it, Bieg's new nickname is Don Quixote
.
Seriously, there are many great reasons not to mod the S2000. The major ones would be:
Decreased resale price.
Chance of diminishing performance or unbalancing car.
But like anything, these reasons have to be weighted by how important they are to you. Perhaps you don't care about resale value (wish I could afford not to), and are either careful enough to only buy performance improvement mods (they are few and far between) or aren't real concerned about cutting edge performance.
And then there's the other side of the argument. Reasons to mod are:
Individuality
Creativity
Tinkering (my personal favourite)
Coolness
Performance gains
Once again you have to decide how important these are to you.
Personally I like tinkering. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than finding (or creating) a problem, then solving it. So I personally understand that one. When my condenser got damaged I had a great time removing it, getting it welded and reinstalling it. Very satisfying and saved me about $1000.
I also have very cool looking aftermarket wheels. They are heavier than the stock wheels so technically (measurably??) decrease performance. But I like them because of several of the other reasons above.
I guess what I'm getting at is that all the evidence given, both for and against modding, seems to be correct. The decision on whether or not you mod your S is not based on the validity of these arguments, but by how much these arguments are important to you.
That's it, Bieg's new nickname is Don Quixote
.Seriously, there are many great reasons not to mod the S2000. The major ones would be:
Decreased resale price.
Chance of diminishing performance or unbalancing car.
But like anything, these reasons have to be weighted by how important they are to you. Perhaps you don't care about resale value (wish I could afford not to), and are either careful enough to only buy performance improvement mods (they are few and far between) or aren't real concerned about cutting edge performance.
And then there's the other side of the argument. Reasons to mod are:
Individuality
Creativity
Tinkering (my personal favourite)
Coolness
Performance gains
Once again you have to decide how important these are to you.
Personally I like tinkering. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than finding (or creating) a problem, then solving it. So I personally understand that one. When my condenser got damaged I had a great time removing it, getting it welded and reinstalling it. Very satisfying and saved me about $1000.
I also have very cool looking aftermarket wheels. They are heavier than the stock wheels so technically (measurably??) decrease performance. But I like them because of several of the other reasons above.
I guess what I'm getting at is that all the evidence given, both for and against modding, seems to be correct. The decision on whether or not you mod your S is not based on the validity of these arguments, but by how much these arguments are important to you.
Well said and I agree 100%. My only point is (and always was) that nobody was even talking about the downsides to doing mods.
seeing a stock 60's-70's muscle call preserved and feeling that's nicer than a metal-flake, fender flared, etc one is appropriate, because the factory was CUSTOMIZINING
the car already....in response to their CUSTOMERS desires, dodos! We TYPICALLY CANNOT get vehicles made to this level due to the legal, smog, politically correct , corporate pinhead hurdles of these times. So go ahead and leave your car stock, that way u can sell a clean one to someone cool. BTW, a stock s2k is an unacceptable near "miss" as it leaves japan. So why is it still the worlds newest, great car.....because the underlying engineering is so inherently good, it is the most appropriate canvas to BUILD a motoring masterpiece. I cannot tolerate driving a stock
s2k(and neither should u), but u could'nt pry my dead fingers off my car the way it is now. Unfortunately, it takes the near price of a Boxster(?S), but once u do it, there is no better ride in the world.....until next week.
the car already....in response to their CUSTOMERS desires, dodos! We TYPICALLY CANNOT get vehicles made to this level due to the legal, smog, politically correct , corporate pinhead hurdles of these times. So go ahead and leave your car stock, that way u can sell a clean one to someone cool. BTW, a stock s2k is an unacceptable near "miss" as it leaves japan. So why is it still the worlds newest, great car.....because the underlying engineering is so inherently good, it is the most appropriate canvas to BUILD a motoring masterpiece. I cannot tolerate driving a stock
s2k(and neither should u), but u could'nt pry my dead fingers off my car the way it is now. Unfortunately, it takes the near price of a Boxster(?S), but once u do it, there is no better ride in the world.....until next week.
I disagree with the idea of the Stook being closer to a Ferrari than a Civic.. Come on, don't flatter yourself..
#1 the Civic is a Honda, and what is the S2000? I mean sure strictly in performance it is closer, but so is a Mustang GT or Miata..
A Ferrari and the Stook are WORLDS apart - there is no comparison.. I can guarantee you I would me much more disappointed moving from a Ferrari to a Stook than from a Stook to a Civic..
I think until you've owned a Ferrari(or at least driven one for a night), then you can't really compare these cars.. Me? Oh yeah I own 12 Ferraris
As far as visual mods go, I never understood them.. Everytime I see an obvious mod I always check for JC Whitney stickers on the bumper.. But hey it isn't my car..
-John M
#1 the Civic is a Honda, and what is the S2000? I mean sure strictly in performance it is closer, but so is a Mustang GT or Miata..
A Ferrari and the Stook are WORLDS apart - there is no comparison.. I can guarantee you I would me much more disappointed moving from a Ferrari to a Stook than from a Stook to a Civic..
I think until you've owned a Ferrari(or at least driven one for a night), then you can't really compare these cars.. Me? Oh yeah I own 12 Ferraris

As far as visual mods go, I never understood them.. Everytime I see an obvious mod I always check for JC Whitney stickers on the bumper.. But hey it isn't my car..
-John M
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