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The Case For Keeping It Stock

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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 10:36 AM
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I agree with Shawn. Everyone here knows your position on mods, which I feel is hypocritical considering that you, yourself drive a modified S2000. What I don't understand is why you insist on continuing to hammer the point home that you feel mods are bad?

I think that you should just let it go already.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 10:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2kRob
[B]I agree with Shawn.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 11:14 AM
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Bieg,
I like the thread and agree with you somewhat. It's nice to be able to have a discourse on things like this without it turning into a flame fest.
I agree that the S is a special car and Honda put a huge amount of thought into its design.
I have made a few mods to mine and the only thing which is non-reversible is the speakers (a/d/s 236iS). (Holes in the doors.)
I haven't made many changes to my car because, I still haven't seen much improvement out of the aftermarket add-ons, other than supercharging, and that's not an option. I do plan to keep my car for a very long time, so I am not worried about resale, butI also think that a many year old stock vehicle is much more impressive than a slammed hot rod of the same car.
But I have made some bolt-on mods, mostly cosmetic, but the one that is truly special is the X-brace.
I think as the car is out and around for a number of years, the aftermarket suppliers will get better at giving real performance for the dollar.
But as you said earlier in the thread, it's an individual thing. I will make more mods when I beleive that the mod enhances my image of my car.
Nice thread, and to all the flamers, please chill on this, it's been a good thread, and for one would like to see one of these end without a flame war. I think that's called toerance to the others in the community.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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Thank you Zippy.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 11:46 AM
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Good thread, I respect your opinion, although might not agree with all of them. =) Whether you decide to mod your car or not, to each his own. It is YOUR car, afterall.

I personally will be performing some aftermarket modifications to my new s2000 (once I get it!!), most of which are bolt-on and can be removed and some of which cannot. I'm not too worried about re-sale value, although the s2000 seems to be keeping its value fairly well in the South Florida market.

Many of us here mod our cars for different reasons. Some want to enhance on an already excellent car or some do it for track racing. Many want to keep it stock for resale value or avoiding warranty issues with Honda. Whatever the case, its YOUR car and you should do whatever makes you happy...
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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Although Bieg did,again, make himself a big bulls-eye by posting his opinion, there's nothing wrong with it. He does it in an intelligent, matter-of-fact manner. Sort of likes playing devil's advocate.
I've gotta admit that I used to flame him before, but realized that he's not a spy from another board (j/k).
The personal attacks against Bieg are unwarranted.


P.S. Bieg, just curious, did you follow up your popular "S stands for Special" thread with this so you wouldn't be seen as going soft?
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 12:24 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bieg
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by S2kRob
[b]I agree with Shawn.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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I understand Bieg's point, I just don't agree with it. I don't see why 30 years down the line an S2000 with Mugen bolt-ons would seel for significantly less than a stock one, especially if it could be replaced easily (this is a point Prolene made, but you never responded to). If you can replace your car to stock easily, then modifying it won't cause your car to lose any resale value (just like your own modifications). I do think that the crazy wings and bodykits that you cite are in the minority of people who modify their cars. Me? I'm basically stock, but that's because I don't really have money of my own to spend/waste on mods
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 12:46 PM
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P.S. Bieg, just curious, did you follow up your popular "S stands for Special" thread with this so you wouldn't be seen as going soft?
They sort of go hand in hand don't you think? I mean if I think the S2000 is as special as I do why would I want to change it (past being able to change it back)?

Seems like many in the "Mod Squad" (Mod = Modifications not Moderators) treat this very special automobile like it was a Civic. Many I am sure come from the Slammed Civic scene so it is just the ultimate Honda to modify to many. I really don't think it belongs in that catagory. It belongs in the same catagory as the Boxster and the Z3. After all isn't it easy to understand how owners of other marques tend to dismiss the S2000 as a glorified Civic when many of our owners are treating it as such? It is embarassing to see a "riced out" S2000 as I feel it makes it look like it is a Kids car and not the world class sports car that it is. Sort of like you might feel if your next door neighbor "dresses up" his house with Pink Flamingos and lawn elves.

Just my opinion.
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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I don't see why 30 years down the line an S2000 with Mugen bolt-ons would seel for significantly less than a stock one, especially if it could be replaced easily (this is a point Prolene made, but you never responded to). If you can replace your car to stock easily, then modifying it won't cause your car to lose any resale value (just like your own modifications).
The Mugen stuff being the defacto performance arm of Honda probably would enhance the value of the car for those in the know. Of course the fact that you have that stuff on the car might scare away an equal number of folks who will think you drove it hard. It is hard to call that one.

I have always advocated keeping your stock parts and being able to return it to stock for the best resale value.
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