CDV Really Aggravates Me.
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From: las vegas
If your gonna get a new stronger clutch, just leave it there. you wont notice it at all.
Im sad to see all the idiot hacks still telling people to remove it.
They must all have honda engineers out matched..
I have installed 3 CDV slaves onto ap1's now to combat diff failures. 2 of these cars had diff failures once a year. they havent had any problems since, hmmm, think the thing works.... guess so.
Want anymore real info, backed up and tested. Pm me. I assure you, listening to the cdv removal crowd will do nothing but cost you money. later dave
Im sad to see all the idiot hacks still telling people to remove it.
They must all have honda engineers out matched..
I have installed 3 CDV slaves onto ap1's now to combat diff failures. 2 of these cars had diff failures once a year. they havent had any problems since, hmmm, think the thing works.... guess so.
Want anymore real info, backed up and tested. Pm me. I assure you, listening to the cdv removal crowd will do nothing but cost you money. later dave
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Originally Posted by S2oooNvegas,Aug 24 2008, 11:37 AM
If your gonna get a new stronger clutch, just leave it there. you wont notice it at all.
Im sad to see all the idiot hacks still telling people to remove it.
They must all have honda engineers out matched..
I have installed 3 CDV slaves onto ap1's now to combat diff failures. 2 of these cars had diff failures once a year. they havent had any problems since, hmmm, think the thing works.... guess so.
Want anymore real info, backed up and tested. Pm me. I assure you, listening to the cdv removal crowd will do nothing but cost you money. later dave
Im sad to see all the idiot hacks still telling people to remove it.
They must all have honda engineers out matched..
I have installed 3 CDV slaves onto ap1's now to combat diff failures. 2 of these cars had diff failures once a year. they havent had any problems since, hmmm, think the thing works.... guess so.
Want anymore real info, backed up and tested. Pm me. I assure you, listening to the cdv removal crowd will do nothing but cost you money. later dave
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Originally Posted by S2oooNvegas,Aug 24 2008, 01:37 PM
If your gonna get a new stronger clutch, just leave it there. you wont notice it at all.
Im sad to see all the idiot hacks still telling people to remove it.
They must all have honda engineers out matched..
I have installed 3 CDV slaves onto ap1's now to combat diff failures. 2 of these cars had diff failures once a year. they havent had any problems since, hmmm, think the thing works.... guess so.
Want anymore real info, backed up and tested. Pm me. I assure you, listening to the cdv removal crowd will do nothing but cost you money. later dave
Im sad to see all the idiot hacks still telling people to remove it.
They must all have honda engineers out matched..
I have installed 3 CDV slaves onto ap1's now to combat diff failures. 2 of these cars had diff failures once a year. they havent had any problems since, hmmm, think the thing works.... guess so.
Want anymore real info, backed up and tested. Pm me. I assure you, listening to the cdv removal crowd will do nothing but cost you money. later dave
Personally, I don't mind the CDV at all.
I'm finally starting to realize why most differential failures that occur, are on AP1's.
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From: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted by Terror,Aug 24 2008, 03:56 PM
I whole heartedly agree. I have contemplated removing the CDV, but decided that a new clutch is cheaper than a new differential.
Personally, I don't mind the CDV at all.
I'm finally starting to realize why most differential failures that occur, are on AP1's.
Personally, I don't mind the CDV at all.
I'm finally starting to realize why most differential failures that occur, are on AP1's.
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From: Orange County, CA
BTW to the OP.
The time really is dependant on your luck with the pick. Some people can do it in 15 min, some just cant at all. My first time took me about 3 hrs
Then I did two more the same day in about 30 minutes from the time I jacked the car up to refilling the fluid.
Good luck with whatever you end up doing though.
The time really is dependant on your luck with the pick. Some people can do it in 15 min, some just cant at all. My first time took me about 3 hrs
Then I did two more the same day in about 30 minutes from the time I jacked the car up to refilling the fluid.
Good luck with whatever you end up doing though.
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Originally Posted by qbmurderer13,Aug 24 2008, 12:28 PM
Yeah it has to do with the fact that AP2 differentials are much stronger than AP1s. The only reason for the CDV is for warranty purposes so honda won't have to replace parts for free. Tons of people have removed the CDV with zero problems and most AP1 owners are still on a stock diff at 100,000 miles unless they drag race in which a CDV won't do much help anyways. The CDV sips the clutch, which causes you to momentarily have no power. No matter what clutch you have it will slow down the engagement and hinder performance.
The olny reason that CDV is in the car is so Honda doesnt have to replace the diff from punks dumping the clutch every day. If you shift your car hard you will burn your clutch up. So go ahead and pay someone like me 8hrs of labor to change out your clutch and then have the brand new one slip. I'm not smarter then Honda enginers but i sure as hell am not going to have my clutch slipping in my S2K!!!!
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Originally Posted by S2oooNvegas,Aug 24 2008, 02:30 PM
uhm..no.
actually it doesnt slow down the entire engagement, it slows down the last milifractasecond.
It doesnt allow the plate to "slam" shut. it quickly comes back, then allows a minute time for takeup, so all the parts are loaded before full engagement. the slowing from without it, to with it, is probably 3 tenths of a second. This in turn causes a tiny bit of slip, which causes a bit of heat, which the weak factory pressure plate cant handle, and it has a hard time shutting all the way. once you have a stronger plate, it still doesnt allow shock, BUT the stronger plate can shut despite the minute heat thats created on a launch or high RPM shift.
This in turn saves not only differential wear, but driveline wear, and CV joint/axle wear.
IMO honda designed it PERFECT. a tad too much for the stock press plate, which in turn makes it right on the money for a heavier plate, and or pucked disk setups.
I absolutely love it. So do all my clients who i have installed it on their AP1's. kick ass perfect launch capability, and no more hard pounding chirpy shifts in 2nd and 3rd.
Dont tell me you dont launch, to ANYONE on here. if your at a light and a guy wants to go, you launch. If your at an autocross, you launch every time you take off, so as to get moving quick for the best time. even in a spirited burst up an onramp, your quick shifts slam the drivetrain without it.
IMHO, it should be on every s2k on the road. unless you want to be cheap and stretch the life of your factory clutch out forever. or if you absolutely never rail your s2k....
who here buys this car and drives it like a grandma 90% of the time? you should go buy an accord if thats your case.
hasta la pasta.
actually it doesnt slow down the entire engagement, it slows down the last milifractasecond.
It doesnt allow the plate to "slam" shut. it quickly comes back, then allows a minute time for takeup, so all the parts are loaded before full engagement. the slowing from without it, to with it, is probably 3 tenths of a second. This in turn causes a tiny bit of slip, which causes a bit of heat, which the weak factory pressure plate cant handle, and it has a hard time shutting all the way. once you have a stronger plate, it still doesnt allow shock, BUT the stronger plate can shut despite the minute heat thats created on a launch or high RPM shift.
This in turn saves not only differential wear, but driveline wear, and CV joint/axle wear.
IMO honda designed it PERFECT. a tad too much for the stock press plate, which in turn makes it right on the money for a heavier plate, and or pucked disk setups.
I absolutely love it. So do all my clients who i have installed it on their AP1's. kick ass perfect launch capability, and no more hard pounding chirpy shifts in 2nd and 3rd.
Dont tell me you dont launch, to ANYONE on here. if your at a light and a guy wants to go, you launch. If your at an autocross, you launch every time you take off, so as to get moving quick for the best time. even in a spirited burst up an onramp, your quick shifts slam the drivetrain without it.
IMHO, it should be on every s2k on the road. unless you want to be cheap and stretch the life of your factory clutch out forever. or if you absolutely never rail your s2k....
who here buys this car and drives it like a grandma 90% of the time? you should go buy an accord if thats your case.
hasta la pasta.
