I don't believe in Karma. It's not something tangible, or measurable or predictable by any means. I may as well believe in the tooth fairy. I'm a kind of person which knows to expect something bad when I do something bad, but not all are like me.

What is measureable, predictable and tangible is action or lack of. Nobody has the right to tell me what anyone's level of threshold on anything should be, shy of violating/raping and killing someone. I've got a foot stuck way the heck up my tailpipe when I did something stupid, and I've learned as a result of it, I don't try and justify the balance between the deed and the degree of punishment. Life is not fair, it never will be. You may do something really good and get nothing in return. You may do something bad, real minor, and get beaten to a pulp for it. If you do something stupid on purpose and you get your beak busted up (cue in Daffy Duck) and you live to tell about it, consider it a hard lesson learned. I believe in what doesn't kill you can only make you stronger/smarter. Appreciate if you come out of it unscathed, but many will agree that a stupid deed gone unpunished means the person learns nothing, except for the fact that he/she can get away with it. Punishment must be served. Karma isn't an effective means of delivering punishment to those deserving it, otherwise all evil deeds should be left for Karma to run its course. People do all kinds of stupid things to other people's property and Karma has never run its course. You can leave things up to Karma, I'd rather take action.

I live in a place that discriminates against "Haole" people. The locals here act very stupid sometimes and I can usually let them know without aggravating the situation. The "Haole's" sometime take on the role of being the dumbas-es. A Haole walks around disrespecting on a Hawaiian and that person's going to get beaten, by everyone, even by another Haole who knows better. Everyone's threshold is different and nobody has a right to say how I should get angry, when I should get angry, what I can and cannot do if I get angry as long as I don't have anything severely illegal in mind to do. We're all adults, we know right from wrong but we're also human. What may piss me off easily may not bother you at all. Egging someone's car pisses me off royally, even if it's not my own car. I see clips on TV where college kids egg students cars as some kind of initiation. If that ever happened here, a lot of people will get hurt, bad.

 

My friend Joe delivered a brutal message. You could interpret the situation as the kid ed his car up 3 times, thefore the kid was ing with Joe. Joe returned the same gesture by ing the kid up. The kid instigated, started with no provocation and got what he deserved. Some of my other friends wanted to get in a few "free licks" (for those who don't know this term, it means getting in a few cheap shots) so it could've been worse, but Joe needed to vent and it was fortunate that it was 1 on 1 (well, I was futile in my attempts to slow Joe down).

I wonder what'd happen if I were to walk down near the Bronx and started egging a few nice cars there in a residential area with 9 guys witnessing how I trashed their cars... do you think I'd get off any easier?

 

they got what they deserved. i'm about their age (20) and i would never be stupid enough to egg someone's car. and if i did and i got my ass beat for it.. then it's my fault. like i said, they got what they deserved.

 

Let's get back to egging not beating.

It was only a Miata but I left it parked, top down, at the tennis courts one night. I wasn't a hundred yards away. When I left at 9:00PM I found that someone had thrown a full dozen eggs at my car and all but one hit. Five on the interior.

I was cleaning until midnight but still missed a few small places that marred the paint.

I was pissed and the kids were stupid envious bastards (can you be envious over a Miata?) but it's just a car and as my wife says, "If money can fix it it's not a real problem." Certainly not deserving of violence. I'm surprised that the kids who got beat up haven't been back for some serious retribution.

 

Kids probably don't know how much damage an egg can do. I was in a 50 mph zone doing 55 in my wife's Acura TL when someone in a car going the other direction lobbed an egg at us. It skipped off the hood and hit the window. Scared the $h!t out of me, it took a while before I realized what had happened.

Washed off the car as soon as we got home, but the egg shell was just like sandpaper on the hood, took the paint right down to the primer.

 

:agree: Its a common misconception that the contents of the egg etch the paint. The egg shell actually shatters at such force that the shrapnel cuts the paint... there may be SOME degree of chemical (acidic) damage, but most of it comes from the initial impact. Especially hard boiled eggs...

 

My 1986 Pontiac Grand Am was egged once. I think I left the egg on for like 2 weeks, until it rained. Strangely, the car actually looked better with the yolk dripping down over the patches of rust and peeling paint. I think the dried protein actually held all of the broken body panels onto the car. Sometimes getting your car egged is actually a positive event!

Now, if someone were to egg my S, I'd probably go ballistic.

 

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This will definitely help with kids egging.

 

I never defended their action for egging people's cars. However, the beating to the head was way out of line. Again, the head is the most fragile part on the human body and should be left alone unless fatality is intended.

Yes, I understand that Joe was angry and drunk, but that wouldn't fly with me if I were the father of the kid who got a brain damage from it. I wouldn't care if Joe was a 1000-lb gorilla, I'd hunt him down and put a clean shot right between his eyes. Then one by one, I'd do the same to the 9 of you. Afterwards, I'd take my life. That's just a hypothetical talk because I'm not a father and I hope to God that stupid shit will never happen. But a father's gotta do what a father's gotta do.

Yeah, I never disagreed that the eggers deserved a beating, but not a life-threatening or brain-damaging beating. Understand? Btw, say if the kid got a brain damage or hemorrhage from the beating, Joe would be locked up for a long time because the law would also see my way. But yeah, eggers are stupid.

 

I agree with the ethics but you can't expect everyone to agree upon the resulting actions. Some like you may have more of a problem with the kind of punishment served versus what the cause of the whole situation was.

The fact is, you can't ever predict how someone will react if you do something that will piss them off. So if you can't handle the beating, maybe the person throwing the egg(s) should re-think about throwing it in the first place. You can't expect anyone to take things calmly, that's something you have no control over. What you do have control over is your own actions, that's all. If the tables were turned and I beat up the kid (not my friend Joe) and the kid's father (you) came up to me and gave me lip about how you don't like what I served your son, my answer would be simple... your kid started something he couldn't handle. I never started it nor did I ask for it to happen. It was through his actions and he made a choice to do what he did. I reacted the way I did and if your kid can't handle the consequences, you need to take your kid home and teach him not to start something someone else may finish.

But hey, I'm not Joe, you're not the kid's father so that's a hypothetical situation, but if MY kid was the egger and he got his head pounded into the ground for egging a car/truck 3 times, my reaction towards the kid would be "what'd you expect for doing that, think before you do stupid things boy..." I may not agree with the amount of punishment my son suffered, but I still have to admit that it was through my son's actions that caused this in the first place and could've been avoided.