Thank you Dan.

Maybe I didn't do the best job of getting my point across because you seemed to be the only one to get it. I could care less what anyone does with their cars (as long as they're not driving like jerks and endangering the lives of the people that I love). My idea was to point out the pitfalls of treating this car like a dragster.

Sorry that I wasn't more articulate. I'm also sorry that this potentially helpful thread has eroded to the pont of banality that it's now basically only useful for soaking up bandwidth.

 

Ok boys, are we done here? This is getting a little out of hand. You are both in the wrong, for assuming things about each other that you really don't know.

AngrySalamander, there really is no need to be so nasty and use such foul language, there are LADIES that read these threads *ahem*. Although I do see your point of view, being one of those people that likes to push my car to the limit, you don't have to be so vulgar about it. I have my car serviced regularly, and have the best warranty available, 136K mile/11year. If its broken, they will fix it.

Da Hapa, I am a little offended by your generalized view of young people driving this car and assuming that it was purchase by a parent for a spoiled brat. I will have you know that I am 22 years old, and work full time to support my addiction. I don't have the extra money to go out and buy Mugen this and Comptech that, but I already had my bitchfest on this point on another thread. Also, the assumption that all this chirping is taking place while street racing is also not true for everyone that does this. I don't regularly street race as it is now a felony in the state of Florida, besides the fact that it is dangerous for anyone on the street at any time. That being said, I don't back down when someone tries to race me, I don't profess to be a saint. I happen to get my kicks on the track, and that's where I put in 110%. In my opinion, if I want my S to be a dragster, then by all means it is a dragster. Like I said before, not gonna try to do it professionally.

 

BrownEydTrouble -

I appreciate your stance and I appreciate the mature way in which you presented it. Just to make sure that I am not misunderstood again...

I have no beef with young people (hell, I'm only 30). I also have no beef with people who have been given these cars by their parents. Hell, I hope that one day I am able to do something that nice for my future kids. I also have tremendous respect for any young people who put their heads down and work hard enough to be in a good enough financial position to afford one of these cars. It took me a long time to get here, and I can appreciate that kind of worth ethic.

I made the coment about being young to Mr. Vulgarity based on his profanity laced tirade. I am assuming (and I think my generaliztion has been substantiated quite well by him) that anyone who displays that level of immaturity is likely to be very young and moreover, not possess the aformentioned traits that I admire.

It is your car, use it as you please. My intent was captured in Dan's post above in that I only wanted to point out potential pitfalls for the ignorant (notice my choice of words in that I'm not calling them stupid, I'm saying that they aren't "in the know").

 

Thank you Da Hapa for your clarification. I appreciate your concern, and your understanding of the nature of the responses. I guess I am just tired of the general assumption that if the person driving the S is under 25, that their parents bought it for them and that the people that drag race the car do not know any better. I may not know everything, but I listen and learn. I have learned a few things from reading this and many other threads, and also by just making mistakes on my own. But just bear in mind, that is the reason for actually posting this question. Not only for the person with the question to learn, but also for the benefit of everyone else that is taking the time to read these threads.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BrownEydTrouble
[B]Ok boys, are we done here? This is getting a little out of hand. You are both in the wrong, for assuming things about each other that you really don't know.

AngrySalamander, there really is no need to be so nasty and use such foul language, there are LADIES that read these threads *ahem*.

 

Two things to say in the interest of calming the storm:

1. Generalizations are just that-- generalizations. If you know they don't apply, sometimes you just have to ignore them. (See the SUV bashing thread for good examples)

I'm 26, bought mine with my own money (or more accurately, make the payments with my own money ). I could be placed into the generalized category of young punks driving cars their parents bought for them. I know it's not true, and I even share the sentiment when I see the same thing. Hey, we're all human. Just gotta have some sense of security.

2. Da Hapa's intent was never anything other than responding to the original question. I don't know why some people decided to interpret him as some attempt to ruin anyone's idea of a good time. As I said, I think it's extremely beneficial to balance out the folks who encourage you to shred your drivetrain with those offering a word of caution.

-Dan

 

I'll add to stooxie's comment.

I'm 19 going on 20 this year. I purchased a brand spanking new 1998 Honda Prelude at the age of 16 and 1 hour. I had been working summers since I was 13 assisting in tech support for PCs at a couple schools in a pretty well off neighborhood. I learned Windows networking as I was working and found myself getting pay raises as I learned to do more. My mistake was spending all that money at 16 to buy a brand new car. I was very inexperienced in handling the car and VTECed it into a spin a mere week after I got it. I fell into that lame category of statically bad teenage drivers. I fixed the car and learned my lesson. At 18 I went off the college and left the car at home. My brother was more patient than me waiting till almost 17 to get his license. He had driven a lot with my parents and was a very cautious and calm driver. When he turned 17 I surprised him and gave him my beloved Prelude (he'd been washing the car and maintaining it while i was away at college w/o me knowing.. my mom later told me that he would keep it clean and covered to make sure it was nice whenever i came home to drive it).

Now I'm going to school and working. I sold a Civic hybrid that I built last year to get the money for a down for the S. I got a loan at my parent's credit union and found my babie out in Texas. It's on it's way home to California right now.

Lesson is everyone has a different story. One day I'd like to be able to buy my parents a new car (my dad won't accept one from me..) as someday my future kids. Being provided for seems to be the object of ridicule sometimes. I believe that being provided for is something you're blessed with. To have people shun you because your parents wanted to give you something just makes you feel bad about a gift that was meant to be enjoyed.
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Back to chirping tires.. Chirping as we all should understand it is simply a brief loss of track due to a surge in torque. When you have very sticky tires like the S02, chirping is rare because the tire is able to withstand the abrupt loss in power during the shift and the immediate surge in power upon release of the clutch. It shouldn't disappoint you that you can't chirp. It just means that your vehicle is able to put all of it's power to the ground effectively. If however you would like to hear the S chirp and the rear tires break loose a bit during a shift, try doing it from 1st to 2nd on a down hill slope.

PS: My Civic hybrid would chirp 4th on cold nights. It was a beast, but it still couldn't hang with an S.