uhm let me think. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EVER PUT A SHORT SHIFTER ON ONE OF HONDAS FACTORY RACE SYNCHRO TRANSMISSIONS. there said it. ever driven a type R. absolute perfection. i dont care how hard or fast you pull it, it wont grind. i have a full on drag car, with built trans for short shifter, the travel is one inch, solid aluminum shifter, it is unbelievable. and i shift so fast that i ripped every tooth off the the drive hub. so to get into a honda, i have to tell myself to slow down. and the shifter in the 04 is amazing. i 200% recommend you dont waste money on some pile shifter for a car that doesnt need it.

(sign at my old shop)
we absolutely will not install a short shifter in your honda, matter of fact we dont even sell them. dont ask.
thank you drive through.

dave

 

I can say from experience that I personally prefer the feel of the C's short stroke shift kit over the stock shifter. It may not be the right answer for hard-core quarter-milers but that isn't what I chose this car for. Been there, it was fun, but I'm just on to something else for awhile. It may not be "better" than oem for some. But I love it.

My C's is AP1 specific according to the labeling. But I think there is only one version of the Axial Flow for both AP1 and AP2. Check with Rick before you order though.

There are lots of reasons to go with a short throw shifter instead of just a countersunk shift knob.

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Shifting really fast in an AP2 will get you into trouble with the CDV - especially if your car is modded for more power or geared.

 

I have the C's distributor Emailing Japan to ask this question. They are supposed to get back to me tomorrow. I will post the answer.

 

Being the old road racer that I am, I did not purchase the "S" to go straight. I have driven some awesome race cars for others some years back such as Porsche DP 935 Twin Turbo, Lola T92 and Porsche 911 GT2 spec. Twin Turbo; additionally I have had a hand in building and racing my own cars. I have raced at tracks such as Dayton, Watkins Glenn, Sonoma and others to numerous to write. I mention this only to show that I possess some experience

Though the "S" comes with one of the finest shifting transmissions for production cars including some exotics that sell for $100K plus, however the shifter itself insulates the driver from really feeling how the car shifts. For most this is a good thing, but for a road racer you need to feel each and every shift, you need the feeling of the syncros engaging and disengaging. Feedback like this to the driver is extremely important. As for the shorter throw this to is very important to a road racer as well those that track their car. The shorter the throw the less time your hand is off the wheel, even if it might be only 1/10th of a second difference, however that is all it can take to loose control. This was one of the reasons for the advent of the paddle shifter; it allowed the driver to continually have their hands on the wheel. Too those that race or track their car or those that just want that extra feel, an after market short shifter is the only way to accomplish it.

Like I said for most, the stock shifter is great. It is engineered extremely well, with features that insulate the driver from what I call shifter kick. Shifter kick is the extra force it takes to shift into gear. For a production car it does have a very short throw and lastly I believe that that the stock shifter was designed to assist in the minimization of heat coming up through the shifter, where as like the AxialFlow has nothing to absorb the heat before it reaches the shifter.

These are my opinions and if you disagree that is your choice, but I would appreciate no flaming.

 

JimmyB, you said it.

Just installed an AxialFlow SS last week, and along with my countersunk Ti shift knob, the shift feeling is completely different from stock. It's just amazing how much feedback and potential for precision there is.

 

Just got word back from the C's distributor that Japan says that it will fit all models. Mine is on its way.

 

Just installed the C's shifer on my '04. Went together fine as long as you are capable of figuring it out without directions in English.

This shifter moves the pivit point up about 1/2" or so and keeps the overall length of the shaft the same. Therefore your shift knob will be located in the original location. I use a Voodoo knob, so that is a good feature for me, so the knob doesn't get too low.

I had one of the origianal Axial Flow units, but the noise was really bad on my car and I didn't wait for the fix. The C's shifter makes no noise and feels great. It dosn't have the direct feel of the original AF unit, since the construction is similar to that of the OEM unit, but it is perfect for me. This shifter has no downsides at all.