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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EOE,Aug 3 2007, 11:35 PM
4) Bleeding the brake system is going to be a PITA and don't tell me to compress the calipers with bleeding screws closed, I LIKE MY ABS unit .
Can anyone confirm that this is an issue with s2000s?
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by __redruM,Aug 4 2007, 09:01 PM
Can anyone confirm that this is an issue with s2000s?
I can confirm 100% that there is absolutely no "issue" with compressing the pistons and pushing the fluid back into the system. Not with the ABS system or any other part of the brake system.

If, unlike me, you don't go through 3-4 sets of brake pads per year, then it may also make sense to flush your fluid at the same time just because it's due. But it does absolutely no harm to the car to compress the pistons with the bleeders closed.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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I can confirm 100% that there is absolutely no "issue" with compressing the pistons and pushing the fluid back into the system. Not with the ABS system or any other part of the brake system.
First of all it's NOT just S2000, it's all ABS equipped cars.

Second of all Mike.....Are you a tech? Has the old study been proven to be false? Now are you 99% sure or 100% because of what YOU DO and most other people does not mean it is the correct way. Also are you saying I am 100% wrong?

Anyways from my experience and training I totally disagree with you on this subject. When I went thru years of training and being in the field we were always taught that you have to pop the bleeder screw open a bit when compressing so the old dirty fluid doesn
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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i believe a brake job on a m3 is somewhere right around $1600 for parts and labor

yeah it sucks, i got all the parts from south bay honda online i think? about $420 shipped for everything F/R rotors and pads

i can't complain much about that
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EOE,Aug 3 2007, 06:47 PM
$700 for Front Rotors/Pads/Labor

I am going to go ahead and buy new Rotors & Pads today online. I am buying Slotted PowerSlot Rotors and pads... well I don't know.

Where can I get them installed with out paying an ARM and a leg for it.
This is BELOW average for a dealer if you are getting rotors.

It costs so much because it's a slow process, especially without all the pro tools, but it's also a very easy DIY. Find the how-to guide in the under-the-hood forum and set aside a saturday afternoon. You'll feel good afterward.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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If you're concerned about the "old, dirty" fluid in the ABS unit, bleed the lines, do a couple of stops engaging the ABS, and then rebleed. The fact of the matter is though, that even for the $700 bill, the dealer tech is not going to worry about the longevity of your ABS unit. If you want things done, right, do them yourself.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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I also worked as a mechanic for a few years, in the early 90s and never heard a word about this. I do suppose that this issue was discovered after my time, but it would have to be on a very very old antilock car.
The brake fluid is in a closed system. There's very few ways for dirt to get into the system. Moisture maybe, but in very small amounts. So in order for this to be an issue the calipers would have to be rusting on the inside. Maybe on a pickup truck from the mid 1990s, but certainly not on a 2 year old S2000.

What's the service manual recomend? Does it say to open the bleeder?
Anyone had the brake fluid flushed, and seen the old fluid? How bad off was it?
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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This thread is ridiculous. The guy already knows how to do this, but won't due to his own laziness? Seriously, how hard is it to bleed a brake system? About as hard as changing oil? A full brake job was one of my first DIY maintenance that I did on my car years ago, and I had no problems at all. And that was with just my basic tools that you could rent or borrow from your friends/neighbors.

If you don't want to do it yourself, and Honda is just too expensive, well, here is a suggestion--LOOK IN YOUR PHONE BOOK AND CALL AROUND! And if you still can't afford those prices, then you bought a car you can't afford, my friend.

BTW, I've done plenty of brake jobs on ABS equipped cars with zero problems. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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All that "training" and you won't do it yourself for 1/4 - 1/3 the price?
Bleeding the brake system whether you crack the bleeder or not is not a big deal.
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