Not saying anyone is a "Bad" or "non-legit" person or whatnot....

But the seller should be more responsible then that... that is common knowledge.
You cant make it far in this world if you have knowledge for tuning cars but yet you have no common knowledge.

 

^ Uhm, dude, chill. Breathe a bit, say it with me now, "groosefraba"....yah, now do you feel better? Now perhaps you can find that caps lock button on your keyboard and turn it off. At this point, opinions appear to me to be split and the best we can do is wait and see what UPS says then what midnight and DC are able to work out. Also see what AJR has to say about it.

 

nah mang, im pissed.

But i can turn the caps off.

 

Violateing the law by declaring product to be of lesser value ---> DC_AP1 fault

Why because HE violated the law so the customer can save a few bucks

Not insuring it for the full amount and the package not getting there ---> still DC_AP1 fault.

Why? He's sending it out, it's his resposibility that the package reaches the customer not the other way around.

 

Sorry but you are wrong in both cases.

There is no law that forces you to declare value because its very subjective. Its the buyer's responsibility to request insurance for the full value to be added, not the seller's.

And no, UPS is at fault for not delivering the package, not the seller. And if they did deliver it but was stolen, then it was UPS' fault for leaving the package there and the buyer's for not being home.

 

Actually your factually wrong.

You have to declaire the true value of a packages contents for customs as was the case here.

Also if I never get your product because you shipped via your girlfiends cousins courier service and he died well you failed to do what we agreed upon which is deliver the product to me NOT my door.

My door has no idea what to do with a delivery only I do.


If the shipper doesn't want to take resposiblity for shipping the product then make the customer come out and pick it up. If you ship you you've assumed that resposibility.

 

This is not the US Customs, but UPS.

This is not your girlfiends cousins courier service, but UPS.

Your analogy sucks.

 

Because this was shipped internationally, it had to go through US Customs and be declared with the appropriate amount. The thing is we can't tell if it was requested by the buyer or not. In the end, no seller should ever underdeclare any package for a buyer. This sort of thing occurs and ends up being an issue.

 

So what if its UPS? He shipped it he assuemed that UPS were reliable enough to get the package there FOR HIM and they didn't. He has a litgitamate grevence with UPS but the reciever of the package doesn't because they (UPS) where not acting on behalf of the buyer but the seller.

If your actually read the post you'd know this went through customs and this isn't an oldsmobile commercial.

When you ship something your hiring a company to delver something on your behalf period. You can't expect the company to act on the behalf of the receiver.

Anyone that lies about the value when shipping items out of the country is violating the law.

Anyone that shipps something without fully insuring it is assuming risk.

never give anyone the option of saving a buck by not issureing the package for the full amount. Since only the shipper can take out the insurance they bare the resposibility.

 

I love these detectives