Does CR have different muffler/silencer
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From: Roaming So. Cal.
Originally Posted by Ks320,Mar 2 2008, 03:28 AM
Wow, there really are a lot of rumours here.
No, the CR is not geared any differently from a base model. The CR does have stiffer springs/shocks, bigger sway bars, an aero kit, rear chassis brace, quicker steering ratio, no soft top, different interior, and different muffler. The transmission and engine are the same as those of base model.
These two pages should answer your questions:
http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4099
http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4094
Please don't start rumours like "The CR has a V6 engine in there ..."
No, the CR is not geared any differently from a base model. The CR does have stiffer springs/shocks, bigger sway bars, an aero kit, rear chassis brace, quicker steering ratio, no soft top, different interior, and different muffler. The transmission and engine are the same as those of base model.
These two pages should answer your questions:
http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4099
http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4094
Please don't start rumours like "The CR has a V6 engine in there ..."
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From: sunny suisun
Originally Posted by SoMe0nE2tAlK2,Mar 1 2008, 10:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhGwLDrFOrM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrreX4SHg8s
Someone asked me this before. Personally I cant tell the difference. If you can, please enlighten us.
And sorry for the wind noise, was havin 50mph gusts that day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrreX4SHg8s
Someone asked me this before. Personally I cant tell the difference. If you can, please enlighten us.
And sorry for the wind noise, was havin 50mph gusts that day.
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From: bloomfield hills
Originally Posted by JHooby,Mar 2 2008, 04:07 AM
00-01 ap1s are alot lighter actually
it weighs very close to 2700 pounds with the stock 16"s.
the 07 weighs 2800 flat.
it weighs very close to 2700 pounds with the stock 16"s.
the 07 weighs 2800 flat.
AP1 from the factory - 2808 lbs
CR without HT, AC or radio - 2765
CR with HT, but without AC or radio - 2807
CR without HT, but with AC and radio - 2813
CR with HT, AC and radio - 2855
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/898/releases/4094
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From: 310 SoCal
Originally Posted by Spr2,Mar 2 2008, 10:41 AM
Hmm apparently that's not true.
AP1 from the factory - 2808 lbs
CR without HT, AC or radio - 2765
CR with HT, but without AC or radio - 2807
CR without HT, but with AC and radio - 2813
CR with HT, AC and radio - 2855
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/898/releases/4094
AP1 from the factory - 2808 lbs
CR without HT, AC or radio - 2765
CR with HT, but without AC or radio - 2807
CR without HT, but with AC and radio - 2813
CR with HT, AC and radio - 2855
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/898/releases/4094
i myself went to a scale and my car weighed 2740 with 17" work emotions.
my friend who also went with his bone stock 07 it weighed 2800 exactly.
stop being in denial, 00 - 01`s also have less speakers & plastic window compared to 02-03 models.
not to mention ; comparing the 07 with MY01.. the seats do look heavier(imo) , the 07 has 6 speakers total, traction control, 17"wheels with bigger offsets, glass window...
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the traction control is electronic through the dbw and abs system. so if anything it saves weight.
The 06+ s2000 do not have an airpump, or cruise control modle either which means lighter weight. They do however also have a better airbag system and more airbag sensors including some built into the seats. Which means more weight.
All in all it balances out. The CR is indeed lighter than ap1. It also have MUCH better tires and wheels than ap1 which add weight. Overall i am sure the CR is a very well balanced package. It also have a stiffer chasis thanks to improved chasis bracing in the soft top area. The CR also does not have any sound deadning material saving more weight.
I am sure the seats are indeed heavier. But in all honesty if you turn the CR into a track car and remove the airbags you can drop ALOT of weight and ditch the heavy oem seats (which are no doubt significantly heavier than ap1 seats)
In all honestly most of the weight for the 06+ s2000 is probably in the seats and airbag sensor systems. an ap1 vs a dbw ap2 both with racing seats and no airbags, and the same wheels. i wouldnt doubt that the dbw ap2 would be lighter
The 06+ s2000 do not have an airpump, or cruise control modle either which means lighter weight. They do however also have a better airbag system and more airbag sensors including some built into the seats. Which means more weight.
All in all it balances out. The CR is indeed lighter than ap1. It also have MUCH better tires and wheels than ap1 which add weight. Overall i am sure the CR is a very well balanced package. It also have a stiffer chasis thanks to improved chasis bracing in the soft top area. The CR also does not have any sound deadning material saving more weight.
I am sure the seats are indeed heavier. But in all honesty if you turn the CR into a track car and remove the airbags you can drop ALOT of weight and ditch the heavy oem seats (which are no doubt significantly heavier than ap1 seats)
In all honestly most of the weight for the 06+ s2000 is probably in the seats and airbag sensor systems. an ap1 vs a dbw ap2 both with racing seats and no airbags, and the same wheels. i wouldnt doubt that the dbw ap2 would be lighter
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From: 310 SoCal
Originally Posted by GrandMasterKhan,Mar 2 2008, 02:19 PM
All in all it balances out. The CR is indeed lighter than ap1. It also have MUCH better tires and wheels than ap1 which add weight. Overall i am sure the CR is a very well balanced package. It also have a stiffer chasis thanks to improved chasis bracing in the soft top area. The CR also does not have any sound deadning material saving more weight.
CR with HT, but without AC or radio - 2807
CR without HT, but with AC and radio - 2813
CR with HT, AC and radio - 2855
how can you still say that the CR weighs less than MY01?
after ive just told you i weighed my car.. it weighed in at 2740 all stock with spare just 17" work emotions(very heavy).
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how much gas did you have in the car?
If the weight of your MY01 is less than the stated honda amount by XX lbs how can you not be sure that the CR is also lighter than the stated amount by the same XX lbs?
i weighed by 04 and it was 35lbs lighter than the oem honda spec weight and weighed in a clean 2800lbs. If the oem spec is off by 35lbs as i found with my car, and it holds true for the CR also then it is STILL lighter than your car.
If the weight of your MY01 is less than the stated honda amount by XX lbs how can you not be sure that the CR is also lighter than the stated amount by the same XX lbs?
i weighed by 04 and it was 35lbs lighter than the oem honda spec weight and weighed in a clean 2800lbs. If the oem spec is off by 35lbs as i found with my car, and it holds true for the CR also then it is STILL lighter than your car.