I recently hopped in a CR for a quick autocross lap, and compared to my AP1 I didn't notice anything that would lead me to believe the CR had DBW. It was just as responsive as my car.

 

It's important to know that if you plan on modding the car DBW can be a serious advantage. The reason you notice from the factory is because of the excessive filtering and delay built into they're control system. When controlled with an aftermarket ecu or throttle controller the response is just as fast as cable actuated throttles. DBW also offers huge advantages with launch/traction control and can be used to save your motor if something were to go wrong. When properly controlled DBW IS a better option.

 

So it's not a full DbW? It's just electronic throttle control.

That's lame. Damn marketers calling it DbW when it's not... ETC is nothing "new".

 

Define "full DBW?" Every usage I've ever heard in the auto world, DBW is the exact same as ETC. Are you saying DBW implies brakes and steering being computer controlled as well?

 

Correct. By definition, that's what DbW is.

Drive-by-wire technology in the automotive industry replaces the traditional mechanical and hydraulic control systems with electronic control systems using electromechanical actuators and human-machine interfaces such as pedal and steering feel emulators. Hence, the traditional components such as the steering column, intermediate shafts, pumps, hoses, fluids, belts, coolers and brake boosters and master cylinders are eliminated from the vehicle.

If it's you're doing is throttle, then that's just ETC, which is a form of DbW, but it's not full DbW.

Toyotas that can park themselves (mostly) are DbW.

The S2000, all you're doing is accelerating-by-wire. But, they call it DbW because it sells cars. All marketing.

Make the whole damn thing DbW, steering, brakes, throttle, tranny, pop some paddle shifters in there and make the pedals and steering columns adjustable,

Then you'd have what a CR should have been... (except the powerplant)

 

I owned an 05 and now have an 07, in the normal course of driving you will NOT notice any discernable difference. As some people already said - having the VSA is a huge bonus BUT can also be turned off if you really want to get into some serious fun.

Consider what mods you'de be interested in doing before making any decisions though, and if your like most people, myself included - you'll definitely prefer the 04/05 wheels to the 06/07's.

 

Here we go again...."cable's better" no "DBW's better"

 

[QUOTE=Elistan,May 1 2008, 03:10 PM] Define "full DBW?"

 

My understanding is that "full DBW" in that sense is illegal. I though federal law requires a mechanical connection between the steering wheel and front wheels, and a hydraulic connection between the brake pedal and brakes. That way, even if the car totally looses power, it can be steered and stopped. Jets have multiple redundant systems, and cost extra because of that, but cars don't.

The Lexus that parks itself, IIRC, has a complete mechanical connection for the steering, it simply has an actuator that moves the system (which is why you see the steering wheel move when it's controlling the wheels.) Similar in concept to the power steering boost.

 

The Super Hornet is the same way as well...


All it means is that the throttle is controlled by a computer. The other notible thing is that the MY06+ have a reflashable ECU so you can send it to Hondata or something and have it reflashed