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Old May 2, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Well, that's when you make DbW an option, not a standard.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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A guy I work with just drove a new 1 series BMW, he said that thier version of "dbw" won't allow you to blip the throttle while down shifting (he currently tracks an E36 M3). You can't rev while braking......
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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well then that's not DbW, that's EbW (Enslaved-by-Wire)
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate4635,May 2 2008, 11:56 AM
I know there was some mercedes and im sure a handful of other concept vehicles out there that were DBW (in all aspects).

It would be pretty wild to all of a sudden say "this years S2000 is DBW, so instead of a gas pedal, you will have a throttle control lever on the steering wheel that acts as the accelerator". MUCH easier to make the standard gas pedal feel like a standard one with springs and whatnot as to change the way we have been driving cars for years.

Thinking into this a little more, I'm guessing a major hold up of true DBW systems is that it would not make sense to have the controls as we know them. It would be easier to have a joystick or a PS3 controller work our cars... However I would imagine that would affect the billions of people that currently drive, and have to educate and license ALL those people that grew up on the old system.

Even in aircraft (where each pilot is trained extensively in the exact aircraft he flies) they try to retain the way the controls feel and operate, just imagine in a car...where someone who may not have had a road test in 40 years get handed a controller!
Two joysticks would be MUCH safer then having a steering wheel, which in itself is just a large object aimed at your chest in an accident. You are correct, they don't use it because people would not be able to drive for years afterwards.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ashamouel,May 2 2008, 03:48 PM
You are correct, they don't use it because people would not be able to drive for years afterwards.
That may not be a bad thing...
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Old May 2, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 3ngin33r1,May 2 2008, 02:42 PM
Probably what it will all boil down to is that it's not properly defined well enough or even implemented broadly enough to say that anything street legal is really DbW yet, maybe in 10 years.
For what it's worth, Honda calls the system in the S2000 "electronic Drive-by-Wire throttle control."
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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The DBW response is quite good on the S2000 and I can't really tell the difference between the DBW and non-DBW. I think Honda did a great job with the sensitivity on their DBW system. Now if the feel of it were similar to some Euro's such as an AMG, then that'd be a definite downgrade.

Not like the S2000 needs it but does the Sprintbooster work on our cars?
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