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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakup,Oct 31 2005, 12:01 PM
With i/rh/e and Hondata tuning the K20a2 can put down as much as 205 horsepower to the wheels, which roughly is 30 more than stock.
I wouldn't say as much as...I made 207whp with that setup...and that was with a Civic Si AEM CAI (which is 2.5" in diameter). I am having an AEM CAI for a RSX-S (which is 3" in diameter) installed and with some more tuning I will be over 210whp.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Oct 31 2005, 12:03 PM
i/h/e, test pipe, and aftermarket ECU can put the S2000 into the 230-240whp range. that's 30-40whp more than stock. there have been dyno's showing as such in the UTH forum on more than one occasion.

our ECU is our biggest hinderance to unlocking n/a power.
The ECU will no longer be a hinderance since the '06 will have a programmable ECU. Hondata will be making a version of K-Pro for the '06 and it should be available around summer of '06.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by afwfjustin,Oct 31 2005, 05:55 PM
This thread is getting STUPID. You cannot compare a modded car to a stock car. Why don't we slap a turbo on with drag slicks vs. a stock winter tire S2000. Or better yet, vs. a Corvette Z06 with a 10 year old driving the car.

The S with (as I've mentioned) a 70mm exhaust, AEM EMS tune, and 4.56 gears (roughly 3000 dollars) will DESTROY a RSX S with 3000 in NA mods.

Wisconsin, just lock this thread and tell these kids to buy an RSX S already.
thats why I think its retarded people were trying to use the crappy version of the K motor as a comparison and why I brought up the K20R.... I think me and Wisconsin had about the most intelligent discussion regarding ENGINES... not cars...
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Originally Posted by '05 S2K SBM,Oct 31 2005, 06:24 PM
Wow...I've really stirred up the hornet's nest here. No need to get all excited. You must have misunderstood my point. My point was that you can take a stock S2K and a stock RSX-S, supercharge them and both will make nearly the same amount of power. To me that is discouraging but it is what it is.
No, they won't. run the same PSI on both cars, and the S2000 will put down more power. This isn't a hard concept to understand.

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Regarding straighline performance, here is a link to the 1/4 thread in the ClubRSX.com forum:

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=319803

As you can see, the quickest time is 10.84@130.

I don't want to continue arguing with you, nor anyone else up in here.
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Originally Posted by '05 S2K SBM,Oct 31 2005, 06:35 PM
The ECU will no longer be a hinderance since the '06 will have a programmable ECU. Hondata will be making a version of K-Pro for the '06 and it should be available around summer of '06.
I wasn't talking about the RSX. I was talking about the S2000. the S2000's ECU is not programmable and cannot be flashed. there is no, nor will there be, any hondata reflash for the S2000.

UL has not mentioned anything on this site about the 06 RSX yet, so I can't comment on that.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa,Oct 31 2005, 06:51 PM
thats why I think its retarded people were trying to use the crappy version of the K motor as a comparison and why I brought up the K20R.... I think me and Wisconsin had about the most intelligent discussion regarding ENGINES... not cars...
well at least me and you got something out of it.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Oct 30 2005, 03:10 PM
very true

very FALSE. don't worry you're not the first person to make this mistake.

the F20C was designed from the bottom up, and was not based upon another platform. The only thing the F20B really even has in common with the F20C is the engine code name. Otherwise it's a new engineered design.
there is a thread somone made about the development of the f20c.
and from the article it stated..

"the model f20c is the upscale version of the f20b which has been the powerplant of the honda accord"

~taken from the the first paragraph of the article. i have it saved and can host it, if requested.

aslo...

"cylinder bore was increased from 85 to 87 mm and the stroke was reducded from 88 to 84 mm."

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Oct 31 2005, 06:07 PM
I wasn't talking about the RSX. I was talking about the S2000. the S2000's ECU is not programmable and cannot be flashed. there is no, nor will there be, any hondata reflash for the S2000.

UL has not mentioned anything on this site about the 06 RSX yet, so I can't comment on that.
Dude...I was talking about the '06 S2000. The '06 S2000 will have a programmable ECU...a feature never before available for the S2000. And yes, Hondata will be making a K-Pro for the '06 S2000 and it will be available around summer of '06.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Oct 31 2005, 06:05 PM
What psi were they running, and how much horsepower does it make? have they bored the engine at all? I have a feeling if you were to compare that RSX with our fastest S2000 (also 129mph trap), that you'd find there is more done to the RSX than the S2000.
Now you are talking about factors that wasn't even apart of the discussion. You made a reference to the quickest RSX in the 1/4 mile, and your reference was wrong. I simply pointed out your mistake.
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa,Oct 31 2005, 05:51 PM
thats why I think its retarded people were trying to use the crappy version of the K motor as a comparison and why I brought up the K20R.... I think me and Wisconsin had about the most intelligent discussion regarding ENGINES... not cars...
Whoa there buddy...are you saying the K20A2 is a crappy version of the K-series? You are totally whack if that is your claim. The head on the K20A2 flows better than the head on any other K-series engine. Why do you think people are using the K20A2 head on K24 blocks?



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